From: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.org> To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> Cc: Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>, Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>, Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>, Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>, Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>, Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>, Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>, Michael Tretter <m.tretter@pengutronix.de>, Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>, Sylwester Nawrocki <snawrocki@kernel.org> Subject: Re: [RFC] Stateful codecs and requirements for compressed formats Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 16:21:54 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAAoAYcOa7ngH5pPJze+H25rDQgjeNnpKY=HWQqsGFTTrO5iFgg@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <530f28e9-f686-6222-c6cc-9a5207b151f7@xs4all.nl> Hi Hans On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 15:34, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I hope I Cc-ed everyone with a stake in this issue. > > One recurring question is how a stateful encoder fills buffers and how a stateful > decoder consumes buffers. > > The most generic case is that an encoder produces a bitstream and just fills each > CAPTURE buffer to the brim before continuing with the next buffer. > > I don't think there are drivers that do this, I believe that all drivers just > output a single compressed frame. For interlaced formats I understand it is either > one compressed field per buffer, or two compressed fields per buffer (this is > what I heard, I don't know if this is true). From the discussion that started this thread, with H264 and similar, does the V4L2 buffer contain just the frame data, or the SPS/PPS headers as well. > In any case, I don't think this is specified anywhere. Please correct me if I am > wrong. > > The latest stateful codec spec is here: > > https://hverkuil.home.xs4all.nl/codec-api/uapi/v4l/dev-mem2mem.html > > Assuming what I described above is indeed the case, then I think this should > be documented. I don't know enough if a flag is needed somewhere to describe > the behavior for interlaced formats, or can we leave this open and have userspace > detect this? > > > For decoders it is more complicated. The stateful decoder spec is written with > the assumption that userspace can just fill each OUTPUT buffer to the brim with > the compressed bitstream. I.e., no need to split at frame or other boundaries. > > See section 4.5.1.7 in the spec. > > But I understand that various HW decoders *do* have limitations. I would really > like to know about those, since that needs to be exposed to userspace somehow. > > Specifically, the venus decoder needs to know the resolution of the coded video > beforehand and it expects a single frame per buffer (how does that work for > interlaced formats?). > > Such requirements mean that some userspace parsing is still required, so these > decoders are not completely stateful. > > Can every codec author give information about their decoder/encoder? > > I'll start off with my virtual codec driver: > > vicodec: the decoder fully parses the bitstream. The encoder produces a single > compressed frame per buffer. This driver doesn't yet support interlaced formats, > but when that is added it will encode one field per buffer. On BCM283x: The underlying decoder will accept anything, but giving it a single frame per buffer reduces latency as the bitstream parser gets kicked earlier. Based on previous discussions I am setting the flag so that it expects one compressed frame per buffer, but I don't believe it goes wrong should that not be the case (it'll just waste a bit of processing effort). It'll parse the headers and produce a V4L2_EVENT_SOURCE_CHANGE event should the capture queue format not match the stream parameters. Interlacing isn't supported yet (it's on the list), but I believe the hardware produces the equivalent to V4L2_FIELD_INTERLACED_[TB|BT]. The encoder currently spits out the H264 SPS/PPS headers as a separate V4L2 buffer, and then one compressed frame per V4L2 buffer (provided the buffer is big enough). Should V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_REPEAT_SEQ_HEADER be set, then it will repeat the headers in an independent V4L2 buffer before each I frame. I'm quite happy to amend this should we have a decent spec of what is required. As I've never found a spec it's been trial and error until now. There is no interlaced support available. Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-28 15:22 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-06-28 14:34 Hans Verkuil 2019-06-28 15:21 ` Dave Stevenson [this message] 2019-06-28 15:48 ` Nicolas Dufresne 2019-06-29 10:02 ` Dave Stevenson 2019-06-29 12:55 ` Nicolas Dufresne 2019-06-28 16:18 ` Nicolas Dufresne 2019-06-28 18:09 ` Nicolas Dufresne 2019-07-03 8:46 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-07-03 17:43 ` Nicolas Dufresne 2019-07-10 8:43 ` Hans Verkuil 2019-07-11 1:40 ` Nicolas Dufresne 2019-07-03 8:32 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-07-03 14:46 ` Philipp Zabel 2019-07-03 17:46 ` Nicolas Dufresne 2019-07-10 9:14 ` Hans Verkuil 2019-07-11 12:49 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-07-11 1:42 ` Nicolas Dufresne 2019-07-11 12:47 ` Tomasz Figa
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