From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: geoff@hostfission.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
"Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>,
"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>,
"Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
"David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>,
"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
"Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>,
"Gurchetan Singh" <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
"Dmitry Morozov" <dmitry.morozov@opensynergy.com>,
"Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>,
"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: guest / host buffer sharing ...
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:46:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSP0QUJBkqtVJq17tfX5O-JuvEGcZQviP0C3tv9qSDy-P-hcg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191106095122.jju7eo57scfoat6a@sirius.home.kraxel.org>
On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 10:51 AM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > Reason is: Meanwhile I'm wondering whenever "just use virtio-gpu
> > > resources" is really a good answer for all the different use cases
> > > we have collected over time. Maybe it is better to have a dedicated
> > > buffer sharing virtio device? Here is the rough idea:
> >
> > My concern is that buffer sharing isn't a "device". It's a primitive
> > used in building other devices. When someone asks for just buffer
> > sharing it's often because they do not intend to upstream a
> > specification for their device.
>
> Well, "vsock" isn't a classic device (aka nic/storage/gpu/...) either.
> It is more a service to allow communication between host and guest
There are existing applications and network protocols that can be
easily run over virtio-vsock, virtio-net, and virtio-serial to do
useful things.
If a new device has no use except for writing a custom code, then it's
a clue that we're missing the actual use case.
In the graphics buffer sharing use case, how does the other side
determine how to interpret this data? Shouldn't there be a VIRTIO
device spec for the messaging so compatible implementations can be
written by others?
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-06 11:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-05 10:54 guest / host buffer sharing Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-05 11:35 ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-06 6:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 8:36 ` David Stevens
2019-11-06 12:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 22:28 ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-07 6:48 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-20 12:13 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 21:41 ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-21 5:51 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-04 22:22 ` Dylan Reid
2019-12-11 5:08 ` David Stevens
2019-12-11 9:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-11 16:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Enrico Granata
2019-12-12 6:40 ` David Stevens
2019-12-12 9:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-12 12:26 ` David Stevens
2019-12-12 13:30 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-13 3:21 ` David Stevens
2019-12-16 13:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-17 12:59 ` David Stevens
2019-11-06 8:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-06 9:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 10:10 ` [virtio-dev] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-07 11:11 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 11:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-08 6:45 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 11:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2019-11-06 12:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 12:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-08 7:22 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-08 7:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 1:41 ` Stéphane Marchesin
2019-11-09 10:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 11:16 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-09 12:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 15:12 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-18 10:20 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-20 10:11 ` Tomasz Figa
[not found] ` <CAEkmjvU8or7YT7CCBe7aUx-XQ3yJpUrY4CfBOnqk7pUH9d9RGQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-11-20 11:58 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 12:11 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-11 3:04 ` David Stevens
2019-11-11 15:36 ` [virtio-dev] " Liam Girdwood
2019-11-12 0:54 ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-12 13:56 ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-12 22:55 ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-19 15:31 ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-20 0:42 ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-20 9:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-25 16:46 ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-27 7:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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