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From: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>
To: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
Cc: "Nicolas Saenz Julienne" <nsaenzjulienne@suse.de>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dave Stevenson" <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.org>,
	"Kieran Bingham" <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund@ragnatech.se>,
	"Naushir Patuck" <naush@raspberrypi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/34] staging: vc04_services: Add new vc-sm-cma driver
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:52:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPY8ntAmQxC4rTNsmfNb10XWR4bYHsMEPLei3c9Zdu00wr-_JQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200824163952.t7hfri4ml4gjnddq@uno.localdomain>

Hi Jacopo

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 17:36, Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave, Nicolas, Laurent,
>
> On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 08:24:38PM +0100, Dave Stevenson wrote:
> > Hi Nicolas
> >
> > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 19:04, Nicolas Saenz Julienne
> > <nsaenzjulienne@suse.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Laurent, Dave,
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2020-05-04 at 12:25 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > From: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.org>
> > > >
> > > > Add Broadcom VideoCore Shared Memory support.
> > > >
> > > > This new driver allows contiguous memory blocks to be imported
> > > > into the VideoCore VPU memory map, and manages the lifetime of
> > > > those objects, only releasing the source dmabuf once the VPU has
> > > > confirmed it has finished with it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm still digesting all this, but a question came up, who is using the
> > > ioctls?
> >
> > We have a userspace library that uses it [1].
> > It is used by things like MMAL to share buffers between the VPU and
> > ARM, rather than having to get VCHI to copy all the data between
> > mirrored buffers.
> >
> > I think what has happened here is that Laurent has picked up the
> > version of the driver from the top of our downstream kernel tree.
> > For libcamera and the ISP driver, we need a significantly smaller
> > feature set, basically import of dmabufs only, no allocations or cache
> > management. For the ISP driver it's mainly dmabuf import from
> > videobuf2 for the image buffers, but there's also a need to pass in
> > lens shading tables which are relatively large. With a small amount of
> > rework in libcamera, we can make it so that we use dma-buf heaps to do
> > the allocation, and pass in a dmabuf fd to the ISP driver to then map
> > onto the VPU. That removes all the ioctls handling from this driver.
> >
> > Downstream we do have other use cases that want to be able to do other
> > functions on shared memory, but that too should be reworkable into
> > using dma-buf heaps for allocations, and vcsm only handles importing
> > dmabufs via an ioctl. All that can be hidden away in the vcsm library,
> > so applications don't care.
> > We've also got some legacy code kicking around, as there was
> > originally a version of the driver that mapped the VPU's memory blocks
> > to the ARM. That's why the vcsm library has two code paths through
> > almost every function - one for each driver.
> >
> > Laurent: What's your view? Halt the review this particular patch for
> > now and rework, or try and get this all integrated?
> > Mainline obviously already has dma-buf heaps merged, whilst I have a
> > PR cherry-picking it back into our downstream 5.4. The main reason it
> > hasn't been merged is that I haven't had a test case to prove it
> > works. The rework should be relatively simple, but will need small
> > updates to both libcamera and ISP driver.
>
> As months have passed, libcamera moved to allocate lens shading tables
> using dma-buf heaps and the only user I can name of the vc-sm-cma
> driver is the actual ISP, that needs to import the dmabuf pointing to
> the lens shading maps with vc_sm_cma_import_dmabuf().

You've also got vc04_services/vchiq-mmal/mmal-vchiq.c importing
dmabufs, either from vb2_contig or imported from elsewhere when using
VB2_MEMORY_DMABUF.

> Upstreaming the whole vc-sm-cma driver as it is for this single kAPI
> seems a bit a no-go. Dave, what would you prefer here ? Should I
> provide a minimal vc-sm-cam driver that only performs buffer importing
> to support the ISP driver ? Is the buffer importing into VPU there to
> stay or is its usage transitional and can be kept out of the next
> submission of this series ?

Both imports are here to stay as the VPU needs to be able to use those
blocks of memory.

This first iteration picked up a fair number of extraneous lumps (eg
the caching calls).
I got a reminder last week that I promised a reworked version of
vc-sm-cma to you and I hadn't done it - sorry, juggling too many
things. I'll get on it now, so nudge me if I haven't pushed it to you
by the end of the week for your review.

We can trim it down significantly now that we have dma-heaps in and
working. There's a niggle that the current dma-heaps are always cached
on the ARM, but that just means that the user has to be careful to use
DMA_BUF_IOCTL_SYNC correctly (which they should be doing anyway).

Whilst waiting for that, the Unicam driver, and the prep work in
mmal-vchiq could all be pushed first, and ideally as two independent
patchsets as there are no inter-dependencies between them.

  Dave

> Thanks
>   j
>
> >
> >   Dave
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/tree/master/host_applications/linux/libs/sm
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Nicolas
> > >

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-25 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-04  9:25 [PATCH v2 00/34] Drivers for the BCM283x CSI-2/CCP2 receiver and ISP Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 01/34] media: uapi: v4l2-core: Add sensor ancillary data V4L2 fourcc type Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 13:48   ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-04 14:39     ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-04 15:32       ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-04 16:08         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-05 11:20           ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 02/34] media: uapi: Add MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SENSOR_DATA media bus format Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 03/34] dt-bindings: media: Document BCM283x CSI2/CCP2 receiver Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 04/34] media: bcm2835-unicam: Driver for CCP2/CSI2 camera interface Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 15:21   ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-05  1:26   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-06 18:01   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-08-29 11:20   ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-08-29 18:32     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-08-31  7:38       ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-08-31 14:17         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-08-31 14:46           ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-08-31 14:56             ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-09-01  8:41               ` Dave Stevenson
2020-09-01 10:22                 ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-09-01 16:37                   ` Dave Stevenson
2020-09-01 17:11                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-09-15  7:03   ` Sakari Ailus
2020-09-15  9:32     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-09-15 13:28       ` Dave Stevenson
2020-10-30 17:53         ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-09-15 17:30     ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 05/34] ARM: dts: bcm2711: Add Unicam DT nodes Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 06/34] staging: vc04_services: Add new vc-sm-cma driver Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-05  2:38   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-05 12:17   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-06  3:05   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-06 18:04   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-06 19:24     ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-08  0:11       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-18 12:06         ` Hans Verkuil
2020-08-24 16:39       ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-08-25 17:52         ` Dave Stevenson [this message]
2020-08-27 10:38           ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-08-27 12:51             ` Dave Stevenson
2020-08-27 16:46               ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-08-27 17:19                 ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-11 18:42   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-18 15:48     ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-20 14:41       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-21 11:01         ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 07/34] staging: bcm2835: Break MMAL support out from camera Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 08/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Allocate and free components as required Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 09/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Avoid use of bool in structures Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 10/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Make timeout a defined parameter Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 11/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Make a mmal_buf struct for passing parameters Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 12/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Add support for event callbacks Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 13/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Support sending data to MMAL ports Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 14/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Fixup vchiq-mmal include ordering Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 15/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Use vc-sm-cma to support zero copy Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 16:30   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-05 16:07   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-11 19:15   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 16/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Fix client_component for 64 bit kernel Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-18 10:19   ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 17/34] staging: mmal_vchiq: Add in the Bayer encoding formats Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 18/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Always return the param size from param_get Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 19/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: If the VPU returns an error, don't negate it Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 20/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Fix handling of VB2_MEMORY_DMABUF buffers Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 21/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Update mmal_parameters.h with recently defined params Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 22/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Free the event context for control ports Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 23/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Fix memory leak in error path Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 24/34] staging: mmal-vchiq: Fix formatting errors in mmal_parameters.h Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 25/34] staging: vchiq_arm: Register vcsm-cma as a platform driver Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 26/34] staging: vchiq_arm: Set up dma ranges on child devices Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 16:54   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-08-25 16:57     ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 27/34] staging: vchiq: Use the old dma controller for OF config on platform devices Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 15:44   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 28/34] staging: vchiq_2835_arm: Implement a DMA pool for small bulk transfers Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 29/34] staging: vchiq: Add 36-bit address support Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 17:40   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-04 20:46     ` Phil Elwell
2020-05-05 10:13       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-05 10:57         ` Phil Elwell
2020-05-05 13:22   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 30/34] staging: vchiq_arm: Give vchiq children DT nodes Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 17:12   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-04 19:42     ` Phil Elwell
2020-05-05 10:37       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-05 10:50         ` Phil Elwell
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 31/34] staging: vchiq_arm: Add a matching unregister call Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 32/34] media: videobuf2: Allow exporting of a struct dmabuf Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 13:36   ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 33/34] staging: bcm2835-isp: Add support for BC2835 ISP Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-11 19:19   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-18 13:38     ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-20 13:46       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-18 12:02   ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-18 14:36     ` Dave Stevenson
2020-05-18 15:07       ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-19 12:47     ` Naushir Patuck
2020-05-19 13:03       ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-06-24 11:28       ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-04  9:26 ` [PATCH v2 34/34] staging: vchiq: Load bcm2835_isp driver from vchiq Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 00/34] Drivers for the BCM283x CSI-2/CCP2 receiver and ISP Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-05-04 15:38   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-04 16:15     ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne

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