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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/79] Address some issues with PM runtime at media subsystem
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:50:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YImEMN/POW5C8lG7@hovoldconsulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1619621413.git.mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:51:21PM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> During the review of the patches from unm.edu, one of the patterns
> I noticed is the amount of patches trying to fix pm_runtime_get_sync()
> calls.
> 
> After analyzing the feedback from version 1 of this series, I noticed
> a few other weird behaviors at the PM runtime resume code. So, this
> series start addressing some bugs and issues at the current code.
> Then, it gets rid of pm_runtime_get_sync() at the media subsystem
> (with 2 exceptions).
> 
> It should be noticed that
> Commit dd8088d5a896 ("PM: runtime: Add pm_runtime_resume_and_get to deal with usage counter")
> added a new method to does a pm_runtime get, which increments
> the usage count only on success.
> 
> The rationale of getting rid of pm_runtime_get_sync() is:
> 
> 1. despite its name, this is actually a PM runtime resume call,
>    but some developers didn't seem to realize that, as I got this
>    pattern on some drivers:
> 
>         pm_runtime_get_sync(&client->dev);
>         pm_runtime_disable(&client->dev);
>         pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
>         pm_runtime_put_noidle(&client->dev);
> 
>    It makes no sense to resume PM just to suspend it again ;-)

This is perfectly alright. Take a look at ov7740_remove() for example:

	pm_runtime_get_sync(&client->dev);
	pm_runtime_disable(&client->dev);
	pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
	pm_runtime_put_noidle(&client->dev);
	
	ov7740_set_power(ov7740, 0);

There's an explicit power-off after balancing the PM count and this will
work regardless of the power state when entering this function.

So this has nothing to do with pm_runtime_get_sync() per se.

> 2. Usual *_get() methods only increment their use count on success,
>    but pm_runtime_get_sync() increments it unconditionally. Due to
>    that, several drivers were mistakenly not calling
>    pm_runtime_put_noidle() when it fails;

Sure, but pm_runtime_get_async() also works this way. You just won't be
notified if the async resume fails.

> 3. The name of the new variant is a lot clearer:
> 	pm_runtime_resume_and_get()
>     As its same clearly says that this is a PM runtime resume function,
>     that also increments the usage counter on success;

It also introduced an inconsistency in the API and does not pair as well
with the pm_runtime_put variants.

> 4. Consistency: we did similar changes subsystem wide with
>    for instance strlcpy() and strcpy() that got replaced by
>    strscpy(). Having all drivers using the same known-to-be-safe
>    methods is a good thing;

It's not known to be safe; there are ways to get also this interface
wrong as for example this series has shown.

> 5. Prevent newer drivers to copy-and-paste a code that it would
>    be easier to break if they don't truly understand what's behind
>    the scenes.

Cargo-cult programming always runs that risk.

> This series replace places  pm_runtime_get_sync(), by calling
> pm_runtime_resume_and_get() instead.
> 
> This should help to avoid future mistakes like that, as people
> tend to use the existing drivers as examples for newer ones.

The only valid point about and use for pm_runtime_resume_and_get() is to
avoid leaking a PM usage count reference in the unlikely case that
resume fails (something which hardly any driver implements recovery
from anyway).

It's a convenience wrapper that saves you from writing one extra line in
some cases (depending on how you implement runtime-pm support) and not a
silver bullet against bugs.
 
> compile-tested only.
> 
> Patches 1 to 7 fix some issues that already exists at the current
> PM runtime code;
> 
> patches 8 to 20 fix some usage_count problems that still exists
> at the media subsystem;
> 
> patches 21 to 78 repaces pm_runtime_get_sync() by 
> pm_runtime_resume_and_get();
> 
> Patch 79 (and a hunk on patch 78) documents the two exceptions
> where pm_runtime_get_sync() will still be used for now.
> 
> ---
> 
> v4:
>     - Added a couple of additional fixes at existing PM runtime code;
>     - Some patches are now more conservative in order to avoid causing
>      regressions.
> v3:
>     - fix a compilation error;
> v2:
>     - addressed pointed issues and fixed a few other PM issues.

This really doesn't say much more than "changed stuff" so kinda hard to
track if review feedback has been taken into account for example.

Johan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-28 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-28 14:51 [PATCH v4 00/79] Address some issues with PM runtime at media subsystem Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/79] media: venus: fix PM runtime logic at venus_sys_error_handler() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 15:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-05-03  9:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/79] media: s6p_cec: decrement usage count if disabled Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 15:31   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/79] media: i2c: ccs-core: return the right error code at suspend Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/79] media: i2c: ov7740: don't resume at remove time Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/79] media: i2c: video-i2c: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/79] media: i2c: imx334: fix the pm runtime get logic Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 15:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/79] media: exynos-gsc: don't resume at remove time Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 15:25   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2021-04-28 19:44   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-28 19:56   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/79] media: atmel: properly get pm_runtime Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:13   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/79] media: marvel-ccic: fix some issues when getting pm_runtime Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:29   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/79] media: mdk-mdp: fix pm_runtime_get_sync() usage count Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/79] media: rcar_fdp1: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 12/79] media: renesas-ceu: Properly check for PM errors Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:28   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 13/79] media: s5p: fix pm_runtime_get_sync() usage count Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 14/79] media: am437x: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-05-04  7:19     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 15/79] media: sh_vou: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:40   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 16/79] media: mtk-vcodec: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:44   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 17/79] media: s5p-jpeg: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 18/79] media: sti/delta: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 19/79] media: sunxi: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:48   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 20/79] staging: media: rkvdec: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 15:09   ` Johan Hovold
2021-04-29  7:38     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 21/79] staging: media: atomisp: use pm_runtime_resume_and_get() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 16:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 22/79] staging: media: imx7-mipi-csis: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 23/79] staging: media: ipu3: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:03   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-05-03  9:57     ` Johan Hovold
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 24/79] staging: media: cedrus_video: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:05   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 25/79] staging: media: tegra-vde: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-29 12:38   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-04-30 17:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-30 17:11     ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 26/79] staging: media: tegra-video: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:13   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 27/79] media: i2c: ak7375: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:14   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 28/79] media: i2c: ccs-core: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 29/79] media: i2c: dw9714: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 30/79] media: i2c: dw9768: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 31/79] media: i2c: dw9807-vcm: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 32/79] media: i2c: hi556: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 33/79] media: i2c: imx214: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 34/79] media: i2c: imx219: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 35/79] media: i2c: imx258: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 36/79] media: i2c: imx274: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 37/79] media: i2c: imx290: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 38/79] media: i2c: imx319: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 39/79] media: i2c: imx355: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 40/79] media: i2c: mt9m001: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 41/79] media: i2c: ov02a10: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 42/79] media: i2c: ov13858: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 43/79] media: i2c: ov2659: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-03 12:30   ` Lad, Prabhakar
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 44/79] media: i2c: ov2685: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 45/79] media: i2c: ov2740: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:20   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 46/79] media: i2c: ov5647: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 47/79] media: i2c: ov5648: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 48/79] media: i2c: ov5670: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 49/79] media: i2c: ov5675: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 50/79] media: i2c: ov5695: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 51/79] media: i2c: ov7740: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 52/79] media: i2c: ov8856: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 53/79] media: i2c: ov8865: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 54/79] media: i2c: ov9734: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 55/79] media: i2c: tvp5150: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 56/79] media: i2c: video-i2c: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 57/79] media: rockchip/rga: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 17:11   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 58/79] media: sti/hva: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:35   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 59/79] media: sti/bdisp: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 60/79] media: ipu3: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 61/79] media: coda: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 62/79] media: exynos4-is: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:49   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 63/79] media: exynos-gsc: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:50   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 64/79] media: mtk-jpeg: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 65/79] media: camss: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 66/79] media: venus: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 67/79] media: venus: vdec: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:53   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 68/79] media: venus: venc: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 69/79] media: rcar-fcp: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 70/79] media: rkisp1: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 71/79] media: s3c-camif: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 72/79] media: s5p-mfc: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 73/79] media: stm32: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 17:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 74/79] media: sunxi: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 75/79] media: ti-vpe: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 18:03   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-05-03 12:49     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 76/79] media: vsp1: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 77/79] media: rcar-vin: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-30 18:05   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 78/79] media: hantro: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 17:14   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-04-30 18:09   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-28 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 79/79] media: hantro: do a PM resume earlier Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 17:17   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-04-29  7:13     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-28 15:50 ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2021-04-29 10:18   ` [PATCH v4 00/79] Address some issues with PM runtime at media subsystem Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-04-29 12:33     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-04-29 15:17     ` Johan Hovold

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