From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27074C3A5A0 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032292082A for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727551AbfHSOoF (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:44:05 -0400 Received: from bhuna.collabora.co.uk ([46.235.227.227]:53828 "EHLO bhuna.collabora.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726211AbfHSOoF (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:44:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: ezequiel) with ESMTPSA id 1573128A693 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ANN] Topics for a media summit in Lyon in October From: Ezequiel Garcia To: Hans Verkuil , Linux Media Mailing List Cc: Alexandre Courbot , Laurent Pinchart , Jacopo Mondi , Tomasz Figa Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:43:56 -0300 In-Reply-To: References: <010ba9ce-bac9-6f0c-f128-4f163a7d8ea7@xs4all.nl> Organization: Collabora Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-media@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2019-08-19 at 09:44 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote: > On 8/16/19 10:06 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote: > > Rather then discussing topics for a meeting under the subject 'Lisbon' > > let's start a new thread referring to the right place :-) > > > > I will try to organize a room, either during the ELCE or (if that doesn't > > work) perhaps on the Thursday afterwards. If that's going to be a problem > > for someone, please let me know. > > > > I do need to know how many people I can expect. I have the following > > confirmed attendees (and please reply if you are not listed!): > > > > Alexandre Courbot > > Tomasz Figa > > Jacopo Mondi > > Laurent Pinchart > > Hans Verkuil > > > > I know there were more who mentioned on irc that they would attend, > > but it is easier to keep track if I have it in an email. > > > > Topics posted under the previous thread: > > > > Tomasz: > > > > I would want to discuss various v4l2_buffer improvements, e.g. > > - DMA-buf import with plane offsets, > > - unifying the buffer structs for M and non-M formats, > > - ability to import different FDs with offsets for non-M formats if the > > layout matches driver expectations, etc. > > > > Besides that, I would be interested in the general idea on handling > > complex cameras in the Linux kernel in spite of the remaining V4L2 > > limitations, e.g. > > - combinatorial explosion of /dev/video nodes, > > - significant ioctl overhead, > > - huge amount of historical legacy making the driver and userspace > > implementations overly difficult and prone to repetitive mistakes, > > - the above also limiting the flexibility of the API - formats, frame > > rates, etc. set using distinct APIs, not covered by Request API, with > > non-failure "negotiation hell", etc. > > - lack of fences, etc. > > > > Jacopo: > > > > Apart from discussing libcamera and hope we could kickstart a review of > > its API, I would like to re-start discussing multiplexed stream support, > > but that would require Sakari to be there, something I'm not certain > > about. Sakari? > > > > Alexandre: > > > > If Collabora/Bootlin is there, I'd certainly want to discuss stateless > > codecs, in particular m2m codec helpers and finalize the specification > > in general. > > Hans: > > Finalize the stateful encoder API. There are still two TODOs there, see: > https://patchwork.kernel.org/cover/10972783/ > A few Collaborans, including me will be attending. On my side, I'd like to discuss the staging stateless codec drivers and the conditions and requirements for them to move out of staging. Thanks, Ezequiel