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From: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
	Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>
Subject: Re: Proposed updates and guidelines for MPEG-2, H.264 and H.265 stateless support
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 14:18:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd84eeebb5ca744976f5edead063c0285ecf79ce.camel@ndufresne.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190522102055.53933998@collabora.com>

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Le mercredi 22 mai 2019 à 10:20 +0200, Boris Brezillon a écrit :
> On Wed, 22 May 2019 09:29:24 +0200
> Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 22 May 2019 15:39:37 +0900
> > Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > > It would be premature to state that we are excluding. We are just
> > > > trying to find one format to get things upstream, and make sure we have
> > > > a plan how to extend it. Trying to support everything on the first try
> > > > is not going to work so well.
> > > > 
> > > > What is interesting to provide is how does you IP achieve multi-slice
> > > > decoding per frame. That's what we are studying on the RK/Hantro chip.
> > > > Typical questions are:
> > > > 
> > > >   1. Do all slices have to be contiguous in memory
> > > >   2. If 1., do you place start-code, AVC header or pass a seperate index to let the HW locate the start of each NAL ?
> > > >   3. Does the HW do support single interrupt per frame (RK3288 as an example does not, but RK3399 do)    
> > > 
> > > AFAICT, the bit about RK3288 isn't true. At least in our downstream
> > > driver that was created mostly by RK themselves, we've been assuming
> > > that the interrupt is for the complete frame, without any problems.  
> > 
> > I confirm that's what happens when all slices forming a frame are packed
> > in a single output buffer: you only get one interrupt at the end of the
> > decoding process (in that case, when the frame is decoded). Of course,
> > if you split things up and do per-slice decoding instead (one slice per
> > buffer) you get an interrupt per slice, though I didn't manage to make
> > that work.
> > I get a DEC_BUFFER interrupt (AKA, "buffer is empty but frame is not
> > fully decoded") on the first slice and an ASO (Arbitrary Slice Ordering)
> > interrupt on the second slice, which makes me think some states are
> > reset between the 2 operations leading the engine to think that the
> > second slice is part of a new frame.
> > 
> > Anyway, it doesn't sound like a crazy idea to support both per-slice
> > and per-frame decoding and maybe have a way to expose what a
> > specific codec can do (through an extra cap mechanism).
> > The other option would be to support only per-slice decoding with a
> > mandatory START_FRAME/END_FRAME sequence to let drivers for HW that
> > only support per-frame decoding know when they should trigger the
> > decoding operation.
> 
> Just to clarify, we can use Hans' V4L2_BUF_FLAG_M2M_HOLD_CAPTURE_BUF
> work to identify start/end frame boundaries, the only problem I see is
> that users are not required to clear the flag on the last slice of a
> frame, so there's no way for the driver to know when it should trigger
> the decode-frame operation. I guess we could trigger this decode
> operation when v4l2_m2m_release_capture_buf() returns true, but I
> wonder if it's not too late to do that.

If the flag is gone, you can schedule immediatly, otherwise you'll know
by the timestamp change on the following slice.

> 
> > The downside is that it implies having a bounce
> > buffer where the driver can pack slices to be decoded on the END_FRAME
> > event.
> > 

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-22 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-15 10:09 Proposed updates and guidelines for MPEG-2, H.264 and H.265 stateless support Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-15 14:42 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-15 17:42   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-15 18:54     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-15 20:59       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-16 18:24         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-16 18:45           ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-17 20:43             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-18  9:50               ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-18 10:04                 ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-05-18 10:29                   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-18 14:09                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-22  6:48                       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-05-22  8:26                         ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-22 10:42                           ` Thierry Reding
2019-05-22 10:55                             ` Hans Verkuil
2019-05-22 11:55                               ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-07  6:11                               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-06-07  6:45                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2019-06-07  8:23                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-05-21 10:27     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-05-21 11:44       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-21 15:09         ` Thierry Reding
2019-05-21 16:07           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-22  8:08             ` Thierry Reding
2019-05-22  6:01         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-05-22 18:15           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-21 15:43     ` Thierry Reding
2019-05-21 16:23       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-22  6:39         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-05-22  7:29           ` Boris Brezillon
2019-05-22  8:20             ` Boris Brezillon
2019-05-22 18:18               ` Nicolas Dufresne [this message]
2019-05-22  8:32             ` Thierry Reding
2019-05-22  9:29               ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-05-22 11:39                 ` Thierry Reding
2019-05-22 18:31                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-22 18:26                 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-22 10:08         ` Thierry Reding
2019-05-22 18:37           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-05-23 21:04 ` Jonas Karlman
2019-06-03 11:24 ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-03 18:52   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-06-03 19:41     ` Boris Brezillon
2019-06-04  8:31       ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-04  8:49         ` Boris Brezillon
2019-06-04  9:06           ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-04  9:15             ` Jonas Karlman
2019-06-04  9:28               ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-06-04  9:38               ` Boris Brezillon
2019-06-04 10:49                 ` Jonas Karlman
2019-06-04  8:50     ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-04  8:55     ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-04  9:05       ` Boris Brezillon
2019-06-04  9:09         ` Paul Kocialkowski

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