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From: "wangyanan (Y)" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: disabling halt polling broken? (was Re: [PATCH 00/14] KVM: Halt-polling fixes, cleanups and a new stat)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 11:28:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32810c89-44c6-6780-9d05-e49f6b897b6e@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YVIAdVxc+q2UWB+J@google.com>

Hi Sean, Paolo,

I recently also notice the behavior change of param halt_poll_ns.
Now it loses the ability to:
1) dynamically disable halt polling for all the running VMs
by `echo 0 > /sys`
2) dynamically adjust the halt polling interval for all the
running VMs by `echo * > /sys`

While in our cases, we usually use above two abilities, and
KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL is not used yet.

On 2021/9/28 1:33, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Christian Borntraeger
>> <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>> So I think there are two possibilities that makes sense:
>>>>
>>>> * track what is using KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL, and make writes to halt_poll_ns follow that
>>> what about using halt_poll_ns for those VMs that did not uses KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL and the private number for those that did.
>> Yes, that's what I meant.  David pointed out that doesn't allow you to
>> disable halt polling altogether, but for that you can always ask each
>> VM's userspace one by one, or just not use KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL. (Also, I
>> don't know about Google's usecase, but mine was actually more about
>> using KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL to *disable* halt polling on some VMs!).
> I kinda like the idea if special-casing halt_poll_ns=0, e.g. for testing or
> in-the-field mitigation if halt-polling is broken.  It'd be trivial to support, e.g.
Do we have any plan to repost the diff as a fix?
I would be very nice that this issue can be solved.

Besides, I think we may need some Doc for users to describe
how halt_poll_ns works with KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL, like
"Documentation/virt/guest-halt-polling.rst".
> @@ -3304,19 +3304,23 @@ void kvm_vcpu_halt(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>                  update_halt_poll_stats(vcpu, start, poll_end, !waited);
>
>          if (halt_poll_allowed) {
> +               max_halt_poll_ns = vcpu->kvm->max_halt_poll_ns;
> +               if (!max_halt_poll_ns || !halt_poll_ns)  <------ squish the max if halt_poll_ns==0
> +                       max_halt_poll_ns = halt_poll_ns;
> +
Does this mean that KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL will not be able to
disable halt polling for a VM individually when halt_poll_ns !=0?
>                  if (!vcpu_valid_wakeup(vcpu)) {
>                          shrink_halt_poll_ns(vcpu);
> -               } else if (vcpu->kvm->max_halt_poll_ns) {
> +               } else if (max_halt_poll_ns) {
>                          if (halt_ns <= vcpu->halt_poll_ns)
>                                  ;
>                          /* we had a long block, shrink polling */
>                          else if (vcpu->halt_poll_ns &&
> -                                halt_ns > vcpu->kvm->max_halt_poll_ns)
> +                                halt_ns > max_halt_poll_ns)
>                                  shrink_halt_poll_ns(vcpu);
>                          /* we had a short halt and our poll time is too small */
> -                       else if (vcpu->halt_poll_ns < vcpu->kvm->max_halt_poll_ns &&
> -                                halt_ns < vcpu->kvm->max_halt_poll_ns)
> -                               grow_halt_poll_ns(vcpu);
> +                       else if (vcpu->halt_poll_ns < max_halt_poll_ns &&
> +                                halt_ns < max_halt_poll_ns)
> +                               grow_halt_poll_ns(vcpu, max_halt_poll_ns);
>                  } else {
>                          vcpu->halt_poll_ns = 0;
>                  }
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Thanks,
Yanan

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-15  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-25  0:55 [PATCH 00/14] KVM: Halt-polling fixes, cleanups and a new stat Sean Christopherson
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 01/14] KVM: s390: Ensure kvm_arch_no_poll() is read once when blocking vCPU Sean Christopherson
2021-09-27  6:54   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 02/14] KVM: Update halt-polling stats if and only if halt-polling was attempted Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28 18:57   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 03/14] KVM: Refactor and document halt-polling stats update helper Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28 19:01   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 04/14] KVM: Reconcile discrepancies in halt-polling stats Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28 21:26   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 05/14] KVM: s390: Clear valid_wakeup in kvm_s390_handle_wait(), not in arch hook Sean Christopherson
2021-09-27  6:58   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 06/14] KVM: Drop obsolete kvm_arch_vcpu_block_finish() Sean Christopherson
2021-09-27  6:58   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-09-28 21:28   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 07/14] KVM: Don't block+unblock when halt-polling is successful Sean Christopherson
2021-09-25  9:50   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-09-26  6:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-09-26  9:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-09-27 17:28         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28  9:24           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-09-28 16:21             ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-30  9:36               ` Marc Zyngier
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 08/14] KVM: x86: Tweak halt emulation helper names to free up kvm_vcpu_halt() Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28 21:59   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 09/14] KVM: Rename kvm_vcpu_block() => kvm_vcpu_halt() Sean Christopherson
2021-09-27  7:06   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-09-28 22:01   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 10/14] KVM: Split out a kvm_vcpu_block() helper from kvm_vcpu_halt() Sean Christopherson
2021-09-27  7:41   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-09-28 22:03   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 11/14] KVM: stats: Add stat to detect if vcpu is currently blocking Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28 22:04   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 12/14] KVM: Don't redo ktime_get() when calculating halt-polling stop/deadline Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28 22:08   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 13/14] KVM: x86: Directly block (instead of "halting") UNINITIALIZED vCPUs Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28 22:12   ` David Matlack
2021-09-25  0:55 ` [PATCH 14/14] KVM: x86: Invoke kvm_vcpu_block() directly for non-HALTED wait states Sean Christopherson
2021-09-28 22:14   ` David Matlack
2021-09-27  7:22 ` disabling halt polling broken? (was Re: [PATCH 00/14] KVM: Halt-polling fixes, cleanups and a new stat) Christian Borntraeger
2021-09-27 14:59   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-27 15:03     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-09-27 15:15       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-27 15:16       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-09-27 16:58         ` David Matlack
2021-09-29  6:56           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-09-27 17:24         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-09-27 17:33           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-15  3:28             ` wangyanan (Y) [this message]
2022-11-16 17:19               ` David Matlack
2022-11-18  2:29                 ` wangyanan (Y)

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