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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Julien Thierry <julien.thierry.kdev@gmail.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote.com>,
	Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] KVM: x86: Use KVM_BUG/KVM_BUG_ON to handle bugs that are fatal to the VM
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 23:06:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <731dd323-8c66-77ff-cf15-4bbdea34bcf9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200925171233.GC31528@linux.intel.com>

On 25/09/20 19:12, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>> Do we actually want to prevent *all* ioctls? E.g. when 'vm bugged'
>> condition is triggered userspace may want to extract some information to
>> assist debugging but even things like KVM_GET_[S]REGS will just return
>> -EIO. I'm not sure it is generally safe to enable *everything* (except
>> for KVM_RUN which should definitely be forbidden) so maybe your approach
>> is preferable.
>
> The answer to this probably depends on the answer to the first question of
> when it's appropriate to use KVM_BUG().  E.g. if we limit usage to fatal or
> dangrous cases, then blocking all ioctls() is probably the right thing do do.

I think usage should be limited to dangerous cases, basically WARN_ON
level.  However I agree with Vitaly that KVM_GET_* should be allowed.

The other question is whether to return -EIO or KVM_EXIT_INTERNAL_ERROR.
 The latter is more likely to be handled already by userspace.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-25 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-23 22:45 [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: Introduce "VM bugged" concept Sean Christopherson
2020-09-23 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] KVM: Export kvm_make_all_cpus_request() for use in marking VMs as bugged Sean Christopherson
2020-09-23 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] KVM: Add infrastructure and macro to mark VM " Sean Christopherson
2020-09-23 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] KVM: x86: Use KVM_BUG/KVM_BUG_ON to handle bugs that are fatal to the VM Sean Christopherson
2020-09-24 12:34   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
     [not found]     ` <20200924181134.GB9649@linux.intel.com>
2020-09-25  9:50       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-09-25 17:12         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-25 21:06           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-09-29  3:52             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-29  9:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-24  6:37 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: Introduce "VM bugged" concept Christian Borntraeger
2020-09-25 16:32 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-25 17:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-25 21:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-29  9:27 ` Cornelia Huck

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