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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>
Cc: Paul Burton <paul.burton@mips.com>,
	Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	James Hogan <jhogan@kernel.org>,
	Serge Semin <Sergey.Semin@t-platforms.ru>,
	"Vadim V . Vlasov" <vadim.vlasov@t-platforms.ru>,
	"linux-mips@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mips: Remove q-accessors from non-64bit platforms
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:09:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a3HWn7RXjcT0KA_qOc+C1SgWd2qXSdCTTAmRKHdc4qNbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.21.1906211048360.21654@eddie.linux-mips.org>

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:09 PM Maciej W. Rozycki <macro@linux-mips.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> > >  The use of 64-bit operations to access option's packet memory, which is
> > > true SRAM, i.e. no side effects, is to improve throughput only and there's
> > > no need for atomicity here nor also any kind of barriers, except at the
> > > conclusion.  Splitting 64-bit accesses into 32-bit halves in software
> > > would not be a functional error here.
> >
> > The other property of packet memory and similar things is that you
> > basically want memcpy()-behavior with no byteswaps. This is one
> > of the few cases in which __raw_readq() is actually the right accessor
> > in (mostly) portable code.
>
>  Correct, but we're missing an `__raw_readq_relaxed', etc. interface and
> having additional barriers applied on every access would hit performance
> very badly;

How so? __raw_readq() by definition has the least barriers of
all, you can't make it more relaxed than it already is.

> in fact even the barriers `*_relaxed' accessors imply would
> best be removed in this use (which is why defza.c uses `readw_o' vs
> `readw_u', etc. internally), but after all the struggles over the years
> for weakly ordered internal APIs x86 people are so averse to I'm not sure
> if I want to start another one.  We can get away with `readq_relaxed' in
> this use though as all the systems this device can be used with are
> little-endian as is TURBOchannel, so no byte-swapping will ever actually
> occur.

I still don't see any downside of using __raw_readq() here, while the
upsides are:

- makes the driver portable to big-endian kernels (even though we don't
  care)
- avoids all barriers
- fixes the build regression.

      Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-21 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-14  6:33 [PATCH] mips: Remove q-accessors from non-64bit platforms Serge Semin
2019-06-20 17:40 ` Paul Burton
2019-06-20 18:19   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2019-06-21  9:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-21 10:09       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2019-06-21 11:09         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2019-06-21 12:24           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2019-06-21 14:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-24 19:13               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2019-06-21  6:06   ` Serge Semin
2019-06-24 21:16 ` Paul Burton

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