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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: "chenjun (AM)" <chenjun102@huawei.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"cl@linux.com" <cl@linux.com>,
	"penberg@kernel.org" <penberg@kernel.org>,
	"rientjes@google.com" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com" <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Cc: "xuqiang (M)" <xuqiang36@huawei.com>,
	"Wangkefeng (OS Kernel Lab)" <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/slub: Reduce memory consumption in extreme scenarios
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 09:05:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <015855b3-ced3-8d84-e21d-cc6ce112b556@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeb2bd3990004b9eb4f151aa833ddcf2@huawei.com>

On 3/19/23 08:22, chenjun (AM) wrote:
> 在 2023/3/17 20:06, Vlastimil Babka 写道:
>> On 3/17/23 12:32, chenjun (AM) wrote:
>>> 在 2023/3/14 22:41, Vlastimil Babka 写道:
>>>>>    	pc.flags = gfpflags;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	/*
>>>>> +	 * when (node != NUMA_NO_NODE) && (gfpflags & __GFP_THISNODE)
>>>>> +	 * 1) try to get a partial slab from target node with __GFP_THISNODE.
>>>>> +	 * 2) if 1) failed, try to allocate a new slab from target node with
>>>>> +	 *    __GFP_THISNODE.
>>>>> +	 * 3) if 2) failed, retry 1) and 2) without __GFP_THISNODE constraint.
>>>>> +	 */
>>>>> +	if (node != NUMA_NO_NODE && !(gfpflags & __GFP_THISNODE) && try_thisnode)
>>>>> +			pc.flags |= __GFP_THISNODE;
>>>>
>>>> Hmm I'm thinking we should also perhaps remove direct reclaim possibilities
>>>> from the attempt 2). In your qemu test it should make no difference, as it
>>>> fills everything with kernel memory that is not reclaimable. But in practice
>>>> the target node might be filled with user memory, and I think it's better to
>>>> quickly allocate on a different node than spend time in direct reclaim. So
>>>> the following should work I think?
>>>>
>>>> pc.flags = GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN |__GFP_THISNODE
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm, Should it be that:
>>>
>>> pc.flags |= GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN |__GFP_THISNODE
>> 
>> No, we need to ignore the other reclaim-related flags that the caller
>> passed, or it wouldn't work as intended.
>> The danger is that we ignore some flag that would be necessary to pass, but
>> I don't think there's any?
>> 
>> 
> 
> If we ignore __GFP_ZERO passed by kzalloc, kzalloc will not work.
> Could we just unmask __GFP_RECLAIMABLE | __GFP_RECLAIM?
> 
> pc.flags &= ~(__GFP_RECLAIMABLE | __GFP_RECLAIM)
> pc.flags |= __GFP_THISNODE

__GFP_RECLAIMABLE would be wrong, but also ignored as new_slab() does:
	flags & (GFP_RECLAIM_MASK | GFP_CONSTRAINT_MASK)

which would filter out __GFP_ZERO as well. That's not a problem as kzalloc()
will zero out the individual allocated objects, so it doesn't matter if we
don't zero out the whole slab page.

But I wonder, if we're not past due time for a helper e.g.
gfp_opportunistic(flags) that would turn any allocation flags to a
GFP_NOWAIT while keeping the rest of relevant flags intact, and thus there
would be one canonical way to do it - I'm sure there's a number of places
with their own variants now?
With such helper we'd just add __GFP_THISNODE to the result here as that's
specific to this particular opportunistic allocation.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-14 12:34 [PATCH] mm/slub: Reduce memory consumption in extreme scenarios Chen Jun
2023-03-14 14:41 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-17 11:32   ` chenjun (AM)
2023-03-17 12:06     ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-19  7:22       ` chenjun (AM)
2023-03-20  8:05         ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2023-03-20  9:12           ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-21  9:30             ` chenjun (AM)
2023-03-29  8:41               ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-21  9:41             ` Vlastimil Babka

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