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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2022 02:18:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0F7CF2A7-F671-4196-B8FD-F35E9556391B@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220815071332.627393-8-yuzhao@google.com>



> On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:13 AM, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> 
> Searching the rmap for PTEs mapping each page on an LRU list (to test
> and clear the accessed bit) can be expensive because pages from
> different VMAs (PA space) are not cache friendly to the rmap (VA
> space). For workloads mostly using mapped pages, searching the rmap
> can incur the highest CPU cost in the reclaim path.

Impressive work. Sorry if my feedback is not timely.

Just one minor point for thought, that can be left for a later cleanup.

> 
> +	for (i = 0, addr = start; addr != end; i++, addr += PAGE_SIZE) {
> +		unsigned long pfn;
> +
> +		pfn = get_pte_pfn(pte[i], pvmw->vma, addr);
> +		if (pfn == -1)
> +			continue;
> +
> +		if (!pte_young(pte[i]))
> +			continue;
> +
> +		folio = get_pfn_folio(pfn, memcg, pgdat);
> +		if (!folio)
> +			continue;
> +
> +		if (!ptep_test_and_clear_young(pvmw->vma, addr, pte + i))
> +			continue;
> +

You have already checked that the PTE is old (not young), so this check
seems redundant. I do not see a way in which the access-bit can be cleared
since you hold the ptl. IOW, there is no need for the “if" and “continue".

Makes me also wonder whether having a separate ptep_clear_young() can
slightly help, since anyhow the access-bit is more of an estimation,
and having a separate ptep_clear_young() can enable optimizations.

On x86, for instance, if the PTE is dirty, we may be able to clear the
access-bit without an atomic operation, which should be faster.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-01  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-15  7:13 [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao
2022-09-01  9:18   ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2022-09-02  1:17     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-02  1:28       ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao
2022-10-13 15:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19  5:51     ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-19 17:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 14:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-20 17:29           ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-20 17:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 18:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-21  2:10               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-21  3:38                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-10-21 16:50                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-23 14:44                     ` David Gow
2022-10-23 17:55                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-23 18:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24  7:30                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-25 16:28                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-26 15:43                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-27 23:08                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-28  7:27                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-21 10:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 18:20                 ` Gareth Poole
2022-10-24 19:28                 ` Serentty
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  9:06   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-15  9:12   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-08-17 22:46     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-20  7:43   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  9:07   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-31  4:17 ` OpenWrt / MIPS benchmark with MGLRU Yu Zhao
2022-08-31 15:13   ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-31 22:18   ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-12  0:08 ` [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Andrew Morton
2022-09-15 17:56   ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:40     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47       ` [PATCH v14-fix 01/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: update admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 02/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: add comment in lru_gen_use_mm() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 03/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: warn on !ptep_test_and_clear_young() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 23:47           ` Andrew Morton
2022-09-18 23:53             ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 04/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fix warning from __rcu Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 05/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fix warning from seq_is_valid() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 06/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: delete overcautious VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 07/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: dial down MAX_LRU_BATCH Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 08/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: delete newline in kswapd_age_node() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 09/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: add comment in lru_gen_look_around() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 10/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fixed long-tailed direct reclaim latency Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 11/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: refactor get_nr_evictable() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 23:47       ` [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Andrew Morton

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