From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5AAC10F25 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 19:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0984B20675 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 19:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=hansenpartnership.com header.i=@hansenpartnership.com header.b="ggY4uvNc"; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=hansenpartnership.com header.i=@hansenpartnership.com header.b="X2fDg85e" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 0984B20675 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=HansenPartnership.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 874E66B0005; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 824486B0006; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:41:51 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 714946B0007; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:41:51 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0180.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.180]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567ED6B0005 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpin03.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E46181AC9CB for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 19:41:51 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 76565957622.03.goat36_6724ee6876730 X-HE-Tag: goat36_6724ee6876730 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 4207 Received: from bedivere.hansenpartnership.com (bedivere.hansenpartnership.com [66.63.167.143]) by imf34.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 19:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bedivere.hansenpartnership.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240FC8EE11D; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 11:41:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=hansenpartnership.com; s=20151216; t=1583523707; bh=QyH0EDJ1FUP6Cg70Ajo5UwLog6IJKhxqIqwcvgHKFno=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ggY4uvNcRhPuU2n6fZvD3i2Sjj2ROXVGWaKDMw26Qa4G1T1BY6lBdKV5NYvynPde4 CWtnCQanOW0yynZVXEMPURDEghbUCzIBZ6QiAZVRtYlDRn3rGK8kRt5Pco2QaQ+oQP osLlnOSzWdRJHRBGRsgVoBex+rR7JtbkS2weLoSw= Received: from bedivere.hansenpartnership.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bedivere.hansenpartnership.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S_hz0NBx31Vr; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 11:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [153.66.254.194] (unknown [50.35.76.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bedivere.hansenpartnership.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 559378EE0F8; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 11:41:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=hansenpartnership.com; s=20151216; t=1583523706; bh=QyH0EDJ1FUP6Cg70Ajo5UwLog6IJKhxqIqwcvgHKFno=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=X2fDg85eJgE/fXmSmsMwLysLAKUTat/D9UP7xUPCwlbBYE/H18bd2pBu4e8TKSwzI VsOJSCtAb25f3NDpDas4JghvIp8o2s0nqKA0BO+FDpSEBU6uc5ZBEjr6eo0A78NOg2 NMcvK9HZQBzURcSGWlaGWAdUIRalj5VH/mfp0Yro= Message-ID: <1583523705.3653.94.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] long live LFSMMBPF From: James Bottomley To: Chris Mason , Josef Bacik Cc: lsf-pc , Linux FS Devel , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Btrfs BTRFS , bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 11:41:45 -0800 In-Reply-To: <76B62C4B-6ECB-482B-BF7D-95F42E43E7EB@fb.com> References: <76B62C4B-6ECB-482B-BF7D-95F42E43E7EB@fb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.26.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 14:27 -0500, Chris Mason wrote: > On 6 Mar 2020, at 9:35, Josef Bacik wrote: [...] > > 4) Planning becomes much simpler. I've organized miniconf's at=20 > > plumbers before, it is far simpler than LSFMMBPF. You only have > > to worry about one thing, is this presentation useful. I no longer > > have to worry about am I inviting the right people, do we have > > enough money to cover the space. Is there enough space for > > everybody? Etc. >=20 > We=E2=80=99ve talked about working closely with KS, Plumbers and the=20 > Linuxfoundation to make a big picture map of the content and > frequency for these confs. And, lest anyone think we all operate in isolation, we do get together periodically to discuss venues, selection and combination. The last big in-person meeting on this topic was at Plumbers in Vancouver in 2019, where we had Plumbers, KS/MS, LSF/MM and the LF conference people all represented. > I=E2=80=99m sure Angela is having a busy few weeks, but lets work wit= h her > to schedule this and talk it through. OSS is a good fit in terms of > being flexible enough to fit us in, hopefully we can make that work. And, for everyone who gave us feedback in the Plumbers surveys that co- locating with a big conference is *not* what you want because of various problems like hallway track disruptions due to other conference traffic and simply the difficulty of finding people, the current model under consideration is one conference organization (the LF) but two separate venues, sort of like OpenStack used to do for their big conference and design summit to minimize disruption and increase developer focus. James