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From: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Skip opportunistic reclaim for dma pinned pages
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:23:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <159303023309.4527.5420769464370063531@build.alporthouse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200624192116.GO6578@ziepe.ca>

Quoting Jason Gunthorpe (2020-06-24 20:21:16)
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 08:14:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > A general rule of thumb is that shrinkers should be fast and effective.
> > They are called from direct reclaim at the most incovenient of times when
> > the caller is waiting for a page. If we attempt to reclaim a page being
> > pinned for active dma [pin_user_pages()], we will incur far greater
> > latency than a normal anonymous page mapped multiple times. Worse the
> > page may be in use indefinitely by the HW and unable to be reclaimed
> > in a timely manner.
> 
> A pinned page can't be migrated, discarded or swapped by definition -
> it would cause data corruption.
> 
> So, how do things even get here and/or work today at all? I think the
> explanation is missing something important.

[<0>] userptr_mn_invalidate_range_start+0xa7/0x170 [i915]
[<0>] __mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start+0x110/0x150
[<0>] try_to_unmap_one+0x790/0x870
[<0>] rmap_walk_file+0xe9/0x230
[<0>] rmap_walk+0x27/0x30
[<0>] try_to_unmap+0x89/0xc0
[<0>] shrink_page_list+0x88a/0xf50
[<0>] shrink_inactive_list+0x137/0x2f0
[<0>] shrink_lruvec+0x4ec/0x5f0
[<0>] shrink_node+0x15d/0x410
[<0>] try_to_free_pages+0x17f/0x430
[<0>] __alloc_pages_slowpath+0x2ab/0xcc0
[<0>] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x1ad/0x1e0
[<0>] new_slab+0x2d8/0x310
[<0>] ___slab_alloc.constprop.0+0x288/0x520
[<0>] __slab_alloc.constprop.0+0xd/0x20
[<0>] kmem_cache_alloc_trace+0x1ad/0x1c0

and that hits an active pin_user_pages object.

Is there some information that would help in particular?
-Chris


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-24 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-24 19:14 [PATCH] mm: Skip opportunistic reclaim for dma pinned pages Chris Wilson
2020-06-24 19:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-24 20:23   ` Yang Shi
2020-06-24 21:02     ` Yang Shi
2020-06-24 20:23   ` Chris Wilson [this message]
2020-06-24 20:47   ` John Hubbard
2020-06-24 23:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-25  0:11       ` John Hubbard
2020-06-25 11:24         ` Jan Kara
2020-06-25  7:57 ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-25 11:00   ` Chris Wilson
2020-06-25 15:12     ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-25 15:48       ` Chris Wilson
2020-06-25 11:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-25 13:40   ` Jan Kara
2020-06-25 16:05     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-25 16:32   ` Yang Shi

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