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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, riel@redhat.com,
	mgorman@suse.de, oleg@redhat.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	minchan@kernel.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, dave@stgolabs.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/6] SRCU free VMAs
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:26:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141024072607.GT21513@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5449C8A6.9080403@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:33:58AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> On 10/23/2014 07:03 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 06:14:45PM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> >>
> >>>  
> >>> +struct vm_area_struct *find_vma_srcu(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	struct vm_area_struct *vma;
> >>> +	unsigned int seq;
> >>> +
> >>> +	WARN_ON_ONCE(!srcu_read_lock_held(&vma_srcu));
> >>> +
> >>> +	do {
> >>> +		seq = read_seqbegin(&mm->mm_seq);
> >>> +		vma = __find_vma(mm, addr);
> >>
> >> will the __find_vma() loops for ever due to the rotations in the RBtree?
> > 
> > No, a rotation takes a tree and generates a tree, furthermore the
> > rotation has a fairly strict fwd progress guarantee seeing how its now
> > done with preemption disabled.
> 
> I can't get the magic.
> 
> __find_vma is visiting vma_a,
> vma_a is rotated to near the top due to multiple updates to the mm.
> __find_vma is visiting down to near the bottom, vma_b.
> now vma_b is rotated up to near the top again.
> __find_vma is visiting down to near the bottom, vma_c.
> now vma_c is rotated up to near the top again.
> 
> ...

Why would there be that much rotations? Is this a scenario where someone
is endlessly changing the tree?

If you stop updating the tree, the traversal will finish.

This is no different to the reader starvation already present with
seqlocks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-24  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-20 21:56 [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Another go at speculative page faults Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] mm: Dont assume page-table invariance during faults Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] mm: Prepare for FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] mm: VMA sequence count Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 11:26   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 11:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 11:53       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 13:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 12:36             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-23 14:22               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 15:05                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] SRCU free VMAs Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 23:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-21  8:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 15:16       ` Christoph Lameter
2014-10-24 15:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 17:08           ` Christoph Lameter
2014-10-21  8:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 10:14   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-23 11:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24  3:33       ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-24  7:26         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21  8:35   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-21 10:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 19:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] mm,x86: Add speculative pagefault handling Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21  0:07 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Another go at speculative page faults Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21  8:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-21 17:09   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-21 17:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 10:40       ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-23 11:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24  7:54           ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-24 13:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28  5:32               ` Namhyung Kim
2014-10-21 17:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 12:35     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-22  7:34 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-10-22 11:29   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 11:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 11:55       ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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