From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Mahesh Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Hari Bathini <hbathini@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/34] mm, vmscan: make kswapd reclaim in terms of nodes
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:07:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160830120728.GV8119@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160829093844.GA2592@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 03:08:44PM +0530, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> > Patch "mm: vmscan: Begin reclaiming pages on a per-node basis" started
> > thinking of reclaim in terms of nodes but kswapd is still zone-centric. This
> > patch gets rid of many of the node-based versus zone-based decisions.
> >
> > o A node is considered balanced when any eligible lower zone is balanced.
> > This eliminates one class of age-inversion problem because we avoid
> > reclaiming a newer page just because it's in the wrong zone
> > o pgdat_balanced disappears because we now only care about one zone being
> > balanced.
> > o Some anomalies related to writeback and congestion tracking being based on
> > zones disappear.
> > o kswapd no longer has to take care to reclaim zones in the reverse order
> > that the page allocator uses.
> > o Most importantly of all, reclaim from node 0 with multiple zones will
> > have similar aging and reclaiming characteristics as every
> > other node.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
> > Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> > Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>
> This patch seems to hurt FA_DUMP functionality. This behaviour is not
> seen on v4.7 but only after this patch.
>
> So when a kernel on a multinode machine with memblock_reserve() such
> that most of the nodes have zero available memory, kswapd seems to be
> consuming 100% of the time.
>
Why is FA_DUMP specifically the trigger? If the nodes have zero available
memory then is the zone_populated() check failing when FA_DUMP is enabled? If
so, that would both allow kswapd to wake and stay awake.
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Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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2016-07-08 9:34 [PATCH 00/34] Move LRU page reclaim from zones to nodes v9 Mel Gorman
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 01/34] mm, vmstat: add infrastructure for per-node vmstats Mel Gorman
2016-08-03 19:13 ` Reza Arbab
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 02/34] mm, vmscan: move lru_lock to the node Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 11:06 ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-12 11:18 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-13 5:50 ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-13 8:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 03/34] mm, vmscan: move LRU lists to node Mel Gorman
2016-08-04 20:59 ` James Hogan
2016-08-05 8:41 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-05 10:52 ` James Hogan
2016-08-05 11:55 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-05 12:02 ` James Hogan
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 04/34] mm, mmzone: clarify the usage of zone padding Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 13:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 05/34] mm, vmscan: begin reclaiming pages on a per-node basis Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 13:54 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 9:19 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 06/34] mm, vmscan: have kswapd only scan based on the highest requested zone Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 14:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-13 8:37 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 07/34] mm, vmscan: make kswapd reclaim in terms of nodes Mel Gorman
2016-08-29 9:38 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-30 12:07 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2016-08-30 14:25 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-30 15:00 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-31 6:09 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-31 8:49 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-31 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-31 12:46 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-31 17:33 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 08/34] mm, vmscan: remove balance gap Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 14:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 09/34] mm, vmscan: simplify the logic deciding whether kswapd sleeps Mel Gorman
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 10/34] mm, vmscan: by default have direct reclaim only shrink once per node Mel Gorman
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 11/34] mm, vmscan: remove duplicate logic clearing node congestion and dirty state Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 14:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-13 8:40 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-14 9:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 12/34] mm: vmscan: do not reclaim from kswapd if there is any eligible zone Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 14:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-13 8:47 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-13 12:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 13/34] mm, vmscan: make shrink_node decisions more node-centric Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 14:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-13 8:48 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 14/34] mm, memcg: move memcg limit enforcement from zones to nodes Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 14:38 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 15/34] mm, workingset: make working set detection node-aware Mel Gorman
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 16/34] mm, page_alloc: consider dirtyable memory in terms of nodes Mel Gorman
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 17/34] mm: move page mapped accounting to the node Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 14:42 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 18/34] mm: rename NR_ANON_PAGES to NR_ANON_MAPPED Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 14:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-13 8:55 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-13 13:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-13 13:37 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-13 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2016-07-15 10:46 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-15 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2016-07-18 13:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 1:27 ` Minchan Kim
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 19/34] mm: move most file-based accounting to the node Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 15:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 20/34] mm: move vmscan writes and file write " Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 15:15 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 21/34] mm, vmscan: only wakeup kswapd once per node for the requested classzone Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 17:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 22/34] mm, page_alloc: wake kswapd based on the highest eligible zone Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 17:24 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 10:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:34 ` [PATCH 23/34] mm: convert zone_reclaim to node_reclaim Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 17:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 24/34] mm, vmscan: avoid passing in classzone_idx unnecessarily to shrink_node Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 17:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 10:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 25/34] mm, vmscan: avoid passing in classzone_idx unnecessarily to compaction_ready Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 18:01 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 12:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 26/34] mm, vmscan: avoid passing in remaining unnecessarily to prepare_kswapd_sleep Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 18:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 12:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 27/34] mm, vmscan: Have kswapd reclaim from all zones if reclaiming and buffer_heads_over_limit Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 18:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 12:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 28/34] mm, vmscan: add classzone information to tracepoints Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 18:13 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 29/34] mm, page_alloc: remove fair zone allocation policy Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 18:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 30/34] mm: page_alloc: cache the last node whose dirty limit is reached Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 18:43 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 31/34] mm: vmstat: replace __count_zone_vm_events with a zone id equivalent Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 19:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 32/34] mm: vmstat: account per-zone stalls and pages skipped during reclaim Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 19:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 33/34] mm, vmstat: print node-based stats in zoneinfo file Mel Gorman
2016-07-12 19:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 12:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-08 9:35 ` [PATCH 34/34] mm, vmstat: remove zone and node double accounting by approximating retries Mel Gorman
2016-07-14 13:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-15 7:48 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-15 12:20 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-08-19 13:12 ` [PATCH 00/34] Move LRU page reclaim from zones to nodes v9 Andrea Arcangeli
2016-08-19 13:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-08-19 13:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-08-19 14:53 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-19 15:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-08-19 15:55 ` Mel Gorman
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