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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Linux RT Users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	cl@linux.com, cmetcalf@mellanox.com
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] MM: allow per-cpu vmstat_threshold and vmstat_worker configuration
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 13:52:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170502165159.GA5457@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170502102836.4a4d34ba@redhat.com>

On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 10:28:36AM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:57:19 -0300
> Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > The per-CPU vmstat worker is a problem on -RT workloads (because
> > ideally the CPU is entirely reserved for the -RT app, without
> > interference). The worker transfers accumulated per-CPU 
> > vmstat counters to global counters.
> 
> This is a problem for non-RT too. Any task pinned to an isolated
> CPU that doesn't want to be ever interrupted will be interrupted
> by the vmstat kworker.
> 
> > To resolve the problem, create two tunables:
> > 
> > * Userspace configurable per-CPU vmstat threshold: by default the 
> > VM code calculates the size of the per-CPU vmstat arrays. This 
> > tunable allows userspace to configure the values.
> > 
> > * Userspace configurable per-CPU vmstat worker: allow disabling
> > the per-CPU vmstat worker.
>
> I have several questions about the tunables:
> 
>  - What does the vmstat_threshold value mean? What are the implications
>    of changing this value? What's the difference in choosing 1, 2, 3
>    or 500?

Its the maximum value for a vmstat statistics counter to hold. After
that value, the statistics are transferred to the global counter:

void __mod_node_page_state(struct pglist_data *pgdat, enum node_stat_item item,
                                long delta)
{
        struct per_cpu_nodestat __percpu *pcp = pgdat->per_cpu_nodestats;
        s8 __percpu *p = pcp->vm_node_stat_diff + item;
        long x;
        long t;

        x = delta + __this_cpu_read(*p);

        t = __this_cpu_read(pcp->stat_threshold);

        if (unlikely(x > t || x < -t)) {
                node_page_state_add(x, pgdat, item);
                x = 0;
        }
        __this_cpu_write(*p, x);
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL(__mod_node_page_state);

BTW, there is a bug there, should change that to:

        if (unlikely(x >= t || x <= -t)) {

Increasing the threshold value does two things:
	1) It decreases the number of inter-processor accesses.
	2) It increases how much the global counters stay out of
	   sync relative to actual current values.

>  - If the purpose of having vmstat_threshold is to allow disabling
>    the vmstat kworker, why can't the kernel pick a value automatically?

Because it might be acceptable for the user to accept a small 
out of syncedness of the global counters in favour of performance
(one would have to analyze the situation).

Setting vmstat_threshold == 1 means the global counter is always
in sync with the page counter state of the pCPU.

>  - What are the implications of disabling the vmstat kworker? Will vm
>    stats still be collected someway or will it be completely off for
>    the CPU?

It will not be necessary to collect vmstats because at every modification
of the vm statistics, pCPUs with vmstat_threshold=1 transfer their 
values to the global counters (that is, there is no queueing of statistics
locally to improve performance).

> Also, shouldn't this patch be split into two?

First add one sysfs file, then add another sysfs file, you mean?



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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-02 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-25 13:57 [patch 0/2] per-CPU vmstat thresholds and vmstat worker disablement Marcelo Tosatti
2017-04-25 13:57 ` [patch 1/2] MM: remove unused quiet_vmstat function Marcelo Tosatti
2017-04-25 13:57 ` [patch 2/2] MM: allow per-cpu vmstat_threshold and vmstat_worker configuration Marcelo Tosatti
2017-04-25 19:29   ` Rik van Riel
2017-04-25 19:36     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-02 14:28   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-05-02 16:52     ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2017-05-02 17:15       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-05-02 17:21         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-11 15:37         ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-12 12:27           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-12 15:11             ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-12 15:40               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-12 16:03                 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-12 16:07                 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-12 16:19                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-12 16:57                     ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-15 19:15                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-16 13:37                         ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-19 14:34                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-19 17:13                             ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-19 17:49                               ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-05-22 16:35                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-25 19:35                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-26  3:24                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-26 19:09                                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-30 18:17                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2017-07-10 15:05                                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-20  8:26                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-22 16:38                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-22 21:13                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti

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