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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memory is freed
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 23:41:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170615214133.GB20321@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1706151420300.95906@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu 15-06-17 14:26:26, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > > If mm->mm_users is not incremented because it is already zero by the oom
> > > reaper, meaning the final refcount has been dropped, do not set
> > > MMF_OOM_SKIP prematurely.
> > > 
> > > __mmput() may not have had a chance to do exit_mmap() yet, so memory from
> > > a previous oom victim is still mapped.
> > 
> > true and do we have a _guarantee_ it will do it? E.g. can somebody block
> > exit_aio from completing? Or can somebody hold mmap_sem and thus block
> > ksm_exit resp. khugepaged_exit from completing? The reason why I was
> > conservative and set such a mm as MMF_OOM_SKIP was because I couldn't
> > give a definitive answer to those questions. And we really _want_ to
> > have a guarantee of a forward progress here. Killing an additional
> > proecess is a price to pay and if that doesn't trigger normall it sounds
> > like a reasonable compromise to me.
> > 
> 
> I have not seen any issues where __mmput() stalls and exit_mmap() fails to 
> free its mapped memory once mm->mm_users has dropped to 0.
> 
> > > __mput() naturally requires no
> > > references on mm->mm_users to do exit_mmap().
> > > 
> > > Without this, several processes can be oom killed unnecessarily and the
> > > oom log can show an abundance of memory available if exit_mmap() is in
> > > progress at the time the process is skipped.
> > 
> > Have you seen this happening in the real life?
> > 
> 
> Yes, quite a bit in testing.
> 
> One oom kill shows the system to be oom:
> 
> [22999.488705] Node 0 Normal free:90484kB min:90500kB ...
> [22999.488711] Node 1 Normal free:91536kB min:91948kB ...
> 
> followed up by one or more unnecessary oom kills showing the oom killer 
> racing with memory freeing of the victim:
> 
> [22999.510329] Node 0 Normal free:229588kB min:90500kB ...
> [22999.510334] Node 1 Normal free:600036kB min:91948kB ...
> 
> The patch is absolutely required for us to prevent continuous oom killing 
> of processes after a single process has been oom killed and its memory is 
> in the process of being freed.

OK, could you play with the patch/idea suggested in
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20170615122031.GL1486@dhcp22.suse.cz?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-15 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-14 23:43 [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memory is freed David Rientjes
2017-06-15 10:39 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 10:53   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 11:01     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 11:32       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 12:03         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 12:13           ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 13:01             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 13:22               ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 21:43                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 21:37               ` David Rientjes
2017-06-15 12:20       ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 21:26   ` David Rientjes
2017-06-15 21:41     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-06-15 22:03       ` David Rientjes
2017-06-15 22:12         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 22:42           ` David Rientjes
2017-06-16  8:06             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16  0:54           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16  4:00             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16  8:39             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 10:27               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 11:02                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 14:26                   ` Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memoryis freed Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 14:42                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-17 13:30                       ` Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memory is freed Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-23 12:38                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 12:22       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 14:12         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-17  5:17           ` [PATCH] mm,oom_kill: Close race window of needlessly selecting new victims Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-20 22:12             ` David Rientjes
2017-06-21  2:17               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-21 20:31                 ` David Rientjes
2017-06-22  0:53                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-23 12:45                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-21 13:18               ` Michal Hocko

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