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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Alkis Georgopoulos <alkisg@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug 196157] New: 100+ times slower disk writes on 4.x+/i386/16+RAM, compared to 3.x
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 11:12:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170626091254.GG11534@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b78db49-e0d8-9ace-bada-a48c9392a8ca@gmail.com>

On Mon 26-06-17 10:02:23, Alkis Georgopoulos wrote:
> IGBPI?I1I? 26/06/2017 08:46 I?I 1/4 , I? Michal Hocko I-I3I?I+-I?Iu:
> >Unfortunatelly, this is not something that can be applied in general.
> >This can lead to a premature OOM killer invocations. E.g. a direct write
> >to the block device cannot use highmem, yet there won't be anything to
> >throttle those writes properly. Unfortunately, our documentation is
> >silent about this setting. I will post a patch later.
> 
> 
> I should also note that highmem_is_dirtyable was 0 in all the 3.x kernel
> tests that I did; yet they didn't have the "slow disk writes" issue.

Yes this is possible. There were some changes in the dirty memory
throttling that could lead to visible behavior changes. I remember that
ab8fabd46f81 ("mm: exclude reserved pages from dirtyable memory") had
noticeable effect. The patch is something that we really want and it is
unnfortunate it has eaten some more from the dirtyable lowmem.

> I.e. I think that setting highmem_is_dirtyable=1 works around the issue, but
> is not the exact point which caused the regression that we see in 4.x
> kernels...

yes as I've said this is a workaround for for something that is an
inherent 32b lowmem/highmem issue.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-26  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-196157-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2017-06-22 19:37 ` [Bug 196157] New: 100+ times slower disk writes on 4.x+/i386/16+RAM, compared to 3.x Andrew Morton
2017-06-22 20:58   ` Alkis Georgopoulos
2017-06-23  7:13   ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-23  7:44     ` Alkis Georgopoulos
2017-06-23 11:38       ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-26  5:28         ` Alkis Georgopoulos
2017-06-26  5:46           ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-26  7:02             ` Alkis Georgopoulos
2017-06-26  9:12               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-06-29  6:14                 ` Alkis Georgopoulos
2017-06-29  7:16                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-29  8:02                     ` Alkis Georgopoulos
2018-04-19 20:36                       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] <234273956.1792577.1524210929280.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-04-20  7:55 ` Thierry
     [not found] <328204943.8183321.1534496501208.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-08-17  9:01 ` Thierry
2018-08-17  9:29   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found] <1978465524.8206495.1534505385491.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-08-17 11:29 ` Thierry
2018-08-17 14:46   ` Michal Hocko

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