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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, david@redhat.com, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	aarcange@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	liliang.opensource@gmail.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, quan.xu@aliyun.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 5/8] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_SG
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:19:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170713210819-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5967246B.9030804@intel.com>

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 03:42:35PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
> On 07/12/2017 09:56 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > 
> > So the way I see it, there are several issues:
> > 
> > - internal wait - forces multiple APIs like kick/kick_sync
> >    note how kick_sync can fail but your code never checks return code
> > - need to re-write the last descriptor - might not work
> >    for alternative layouts which always expose descriptors
> >    immediately
> 
> Probably it wasn't clear. Please let me explain the two functions here:
> 
> 1) virtqueue_add_chain_desc(vq, head_id, prev_id,..):
> grabs a desc from the vq and inserts it to the chain tail (which is indexed
> by
> prev_id, probably better to call it tail_id). Then, the new added desc
> becomes
> the tail (i.e. the last desc). The _F_NEXT flag is cleared for each desc
> when it's
> added to the chain, and set when another desc comes to follow later.

And this only works if there are multiple rings like
avail + descriptor ring.
It won't work e.g. with the proposed new layout where
writing out a descriptor exposes it immediately.

> 2) virtqueue_add_chain(vq, head_id,..): expose the chain to the other end.
> 
> So, if people want to add a desc and immediately expose it to the other end,
> i.e. build a single desc chain, they can just add and expose:
> 
> virtqueue_add_chain_desc(..);
> virtqueue_add_chain(..,head_id);
> 
> Would you see any issues here?

The way the new APIs poll used ring internally.

> 
> > - some kind of iterator type would be nicer instead of
> >    maintaining head/prev explicitly
> 
> Why would we need to iterate the chain?

In your patches prev/tail are iterators - they keep track of
where you are in the chain.

> I think it would be simpler to use
> a wrapper struct:
> 
> struct virtqueue_desc_chain {
>     unsigned int head;  // head desc id of the chain
>     unsigned int tail;     // tail desc id of the chain
> }
> 
> The new desc will be put to desc[tail].next, and we don't need to walk
> from the head desc[head].next when inserting a new desc to the chain, right?
> 
> 
> > 
> > As for the use, it would be better to do
> > 
> > if (!add_next(vq, ...)) {
> > 	add_last(vq, ...)
> > 	kick
> > 	wait
> > }
> 
> "!add_next(vq, ...)" means that the vq is full?


No - it means there's only 1 entry left for the last descriptor.


> If so, what would add_last()
> do then?
> 
> > Using VIRTQUEUE_DESC_ID_INIT seems to avoid a branch in the driver, but
> > in fact it merely puts the branch in the virtio code.
> > 
> 
> Actually it wasn't intended to improve performance. It is used to indicate
> the "init" state
> of the chain. So, when virtqueue_add_chain_desc(, head_id,..) finds head
> id=INIT, it will
> assign the grabbed desc id to &head_id. In some sense, it is equivalent to
> add_first().
> 
> Do you have a different opinion here?
> 
> Best,
> Wei
> 

It is but let's make it explicit here - an API function is better
than a special value.

-- 
MST

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-13 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12 12:40 [PATCH v12 0/8] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 1/8] virtio-balloon: deflate via a page list Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 2/8] virtio-balloon: coding format cleanup Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 3/8] Introduce xbitmap Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 4/8] xbitmap: add xb_find_next_bit() and xb_zero() Wei Wang
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 5/8] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_SG Wei Wang
2017-07-12 13:06   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 13:29     ` Wei Wang
2017-07-12 13:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  7:42         ` Wei Wang
2017-07-13 20:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-07-14  7:12             ` Wei Wang
2017-07-23  1:45               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-26  3:48                 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-26 17:02                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-27  2:50                     ` Wei Wang
2017-07-28 23:08                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-29 12:47                         ` Wei Wang
2017-07-30  4:22                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-30  5:59                             ` Wang, Wei W
2017-07-30 16:18                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-30 16:20                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-31 12:36                                   ` Wei Wang
2017-07-13  0:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  1:16   ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-13  4:21   ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-28  8:25   ` Wei Wang
2017-07-28 23:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 6/8] mm: support reporting free page blocks Wei Wang
2017-07-13  0:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  8:25     ` Wei Wang
2017-07-14 12:30   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:54     ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 15:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 19:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-17 15:24       ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-18  2:12         ` Wei Wang
2017-07-19  8:13           ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-19 12:01             ` Wei Wang
2017-07-24  9:00               ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25  9:32                 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-25 11:25                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 11:56                     ` Wei Wang
2017-07-25 12:41                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 14:47                         ` Wang, Wei W
2017-07-25 14:53                           ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-26  2:22                             ` Wei Wang
2017-07-26 10:24                               ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-26 11:44                                 ` Wei Wang
2017-07-26 11:55                                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-26 12:47                                     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 7/8] mm: export symbol of next_zone and first_online_pgdat Wei Wang
2017-07-13  0:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  8:41     ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-07-14 12:31   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-12 12:40 ` [PATCH v12 8/8] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CMD_VQ Wei Wang
2017-07-13  0:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  8:46     ` Wei Wang
2017-07-13 17:59       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  0:14 ` [PATCH v12 0/8] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Michael S. Tsirkin

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