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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, oom: allow oom reaper to race with exit_mmap
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:11:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170724161146.GQ25221@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170724145142.i5xqpie3joyxbnck@node.shutemov.name>

On Mon 24-07-17 17:51:42, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 04:15:26PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > What kind of scalability implication you have in mind? There is
> > basically a zero contention on the mmap_sem that late in the exit path
> > so this should be pretty much a fast path of the down_write. I agree it
> > is not 0 cost but the cost of the address space freeing should basically
> > make it a noise.
> 
> Even in fast path case, it adds two atomic operation per-process. If the
> cache line is not exclusive to the core by the time of exit(2) it can be
> noticible.
> 
> ... but I guess it's not very hot scenario.
> 
> I guess I'm just too cautious here. :)

I definitely did not want to handwave your concern. I just think we can
rule out the slow path and didn't think about the fast path overhead.

> > > Should we do performance/scalability evaluation of the patch before
> > > getting it applied?
> > 
> > What kind of test(s) would you be interested in?
> 
> Can we at lest check that number of /bin/true we can spawn per second
> wouldn't be harmed by the patch? ;)

OK, so measuring a single /bin/true doesn't tell anything so I've done
root@test1:~# cat a.sh 
#!/bin/sh

NR=$1
for i in $(seq $NR)
do
        /bin/true
done

in my virtual machine (on a otherwise idle host) with 4 cpus and 2GB of
RAM

Unpatched kernel
root@test1:~# /usr/bin/time -v ./a.sh 100000 
        Command being timed: "./a.sh 100000"
        User time (seconds): 53.57
        System time (seconds): 26.12
        Percent of CPU this job got: 100%
        Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 1:19.46
root@test1:~# /usr/bin/time -v ./a.sh 100000 
        Command being timed: "./a.sh 100000"
        User time (seconds): 53.90
        System time (seconds): 26.23
        Percent of CPU this job got: 100%
        Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 1:19.77
root@test1:~# /usr/bin/time -v ./a.sh 100000 
        Command being timed: "./a.sh 100000"
        User time (seconds): 54.02
        System time (seconds): 26.18
        Percent of CPU this job got: 100%
        Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 1:19.92

patched kernel
root@test1:~# /usr/bin/time -v ./a.sh 100000 
        Command being timed: "./a.sh 100000"
        User time (seconds): 53.81
        System time (seconds): 26.55
        Percent of CPU this job got: 100%
        Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 1:19.99
root@test1:~# /usr/bin/time -v ./a.sh 100000 
        Command being timed: "./a.sh 100000"
        User time (seconds): 53.78
        System time (seconds): 26.15
        Percent of CPU this job got: 100%
        Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 1:19.67
root@test1:~# /usr/bin/time -v ./a.sh 100000 
        Command being timed: "./a.sh 100000"
        User time (seconds): 54.08
        System time (seconds): 26.87
        Percent of CPU this job got: 100%
        Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 1:20.52

the results very quite a lot (have a look at the user time which
shouldn't have no reason to vary at all - maybe the virtual machine
aspect?). I would say that we are still reasonably close to a noise
here. Considering that /bin/true would close to the worst case I think
this looks reasonably. What do you think?

If you absolutely insist, I can make the lock conditional only for oom
victims. That would still mean current->signal->oom_mm pointers fetches
and a 2 branches.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-24 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-24  7:23 [PATCH] mm, oom: allow oom reaper to race with exit_mmap Michal Hocko
2017-07-24 14:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-07-24 14:15   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-24 14:51     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-07-24 16:11       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-07-25 14:17         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-07-25 14:26           ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 15:07             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-07-25 15:15               ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 14:26         ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 15:17           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-07-25 15:23             ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 15:31               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-07-25 16:04                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 19:19                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-26  5:45                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-26 16:29                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-26 16:43                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-27  6:50                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-27 14:55                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-28  6:23                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-28  1:58                         ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: oom: let oom_reap_task and exit_mmap to run kbuild test robot
2017-08-15  0:20                         ` [PATCH] mm, oom: allow oom reaper to race with exit_mmap David Rientjes
2017-07-24 15:27 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-24 16:42 ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-24 18:12   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 15:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-25 15:45   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-25 18:26     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-26  5:45       ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-26 16:39         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-27  6:32           ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10  8:16 Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 18:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-10 18:51   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 20:36     ` Michal Hocko

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