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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Potential race in TLB flush batching?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 08:44:54 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726234454.GB4491@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170726092228.pyjxamxweslgaemi@suse.de>

Hi Mel,

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:22:28AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 02:43:06PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > I'm relying on the fact you are the madv_free author to determine if
> > > it's really necessary. The race in question is CPU 0 running madv_free
> > > and updating some PTEs while CPU 1 is also running madv_free and looking
> > > at the same PTEs. CPU 1 may have writable TLB entries for a page but fail
> > > the pte_dirty check (because CPU 0 has updated it already) and potentially
> > > fail to flush. Hence, when madv_free on CPU 1 returns, there are still
> > > potentially writable TLB entries and the underlying PTE is still present
> > > so that a subsequent write does not necessarily propagate the dirty bit
> > > to the underlying PTE any more. Reclaim at some unknown time at the future
> > > may then see that the PTE is still clean and discard the page even though
> > > a write has happened in the meantime. I think this is possible but I could
> > > have missed some protection in madv_free that prevents it happening.
> > 
> > Thanks for the detail. You didn't miss anything. It can happen and then
> > it's really bug. IOW, if application does write something after madv_free,
> > it must see the written value, not zero.
> > 
> > How about adding [set|clear]_tlb_flush_pending in tlb batchin interface?
> > With it, when tlb_finish_mmu is called, we can know we skip the flush
> > but there is pending flush, so flush focefully to avoid madv_dontneed
> > as well as madv_free scenario.
> > 
> 
> I *think* this is ok as it's simply more expensive on the KSM side in
> the event of a race but no other harmful change is made assuming that
> KSM is the only race-prone. The check for mm_tlb_flush_pending also
> happens under the PTL so there should be sufficient protection from the
> mm struct update being visible at teh right time.
> 
> Check using the test program from "mm: Always flush VMA ranges affected
> by zap_page_range v2" if it handles the madvise case as well as that
> would give some degree of safety. Make sure it's tested against 4.13-rc2
> instead of mmotm which already includes the madv_dontneed fix. If yours
> works for both then it supersedes the mmotm patch.

Okay, I will test it on 4.13-rc2 + Nadav's atomic tlb_flush_pending
+ my patch fixed partial flush problem pointed out by Nadav.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-26 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-11  0:52 Potential race in TLB flush batching? Nadav Amit
2017-07-11  6:41 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11  7:30   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11  9:29     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 10:40       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 13:20         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 14:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 15:53             ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 17:23               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 19:18                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 20:06                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 21:09                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 20:09                   ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 21:52                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 22:27                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 22:34                         ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-12  8:27                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-12 23:27                           ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-12 23:36                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-12 23:42                               ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-13  5:38                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 16:05                                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-13 16:06                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13  6:07                             ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-13 16:08                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 17:07                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-13 17:15                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 18:23                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 23:16                               ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-15 15:55                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-15 16:41                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-17  7:49                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-18 21:28                                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19  7:41                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 19:41                                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 19:58                                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 20:20                                           ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 21:47                                             ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 22:19                                               ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 22:59                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 23:39                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-20  7:43                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-22  1:19                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-24  9:58                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-24 19:46                                                           ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-25  7:37                                                           ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-25  8:51                                                             ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-25  9:11                                                               ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-25 10:10                                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26  5:43                                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-26  9:22                                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26 19:18                                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-26 23:40                                                                         ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27  0:09                                                                           ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27  0:34                                                                             ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27  0:48                                                                               ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27  1:13                                                                                 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27  7:04                                                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27  7:21                                                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-27 16:04                                                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27 17:36                                                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26 23:44                                                                       ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2017-07-11 22:07                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 22:33                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14  7:00                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-07-14  8:31                       ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14  9:02                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-07-14  9:27                           ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 22:21                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 16:22           ` Nadav Amit

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