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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	rientjes@google.com, mjaggi@caviumnetworks.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	vdavydov.dev@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, oom: task_will_free_mem(current) should ignore MMF_OOM_SKIP for once.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:26:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170804112600.GL26029@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201708042010.HDD60496.LFtOQMFJOSFHOV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Fri 04-08-17 20:10:09, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 03-08-17 16:53:40, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > We don't need to give up task_will_free_mem(current) without trying
> > > > > allocation from memory reserves. We will need to select next OOM victim
> > > > > only when allocation from memory reserves did not help.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thus, this patch allows task_will_free_mem(current) to ignore MMF_OOM_SKIP
> > > > > for once so that task_will_free_mem(current) will not start selecting next
> > > > > OOM victim without trying allocation from memory reserves.
> > > > 
> > > > As I've already said this is an ugly hack and once we have
> > > > http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20170727090357.3205-2-mhocko@kernel.org merged
> > > > then it even shouldn't be needed because _all_ threads of the oom victim
> > > > will have an instant access to memory reserves.
> > > > 
> > > > So I do not think we want to merge this.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > No, we still want to merge this, for 4.8+ kernels which won't get your patch
> > > backported will need this. Even after your patch is merged, there is a race
> > > window where allocating threads are between after gfp_pfmemalloc_allowed() and
> > > before mutex_trylock(&oom_lock) in __alloc_pages_may_oom() which means that
> > > some threads could call out_of_memory() and hit this task_will_free_mem(current)
> > > test. Ignoring MMF_OOM_SKIP for once is still useful.
> > 
> > I disagree. I am _highly_ skeptical this is a stable material. The
> > mentioned test case is artificial and the source of the problem is
> > somewhere else. Moreover the culprit is somewhere else. It is in the oom
> > reaper setting MMF_OOM_SKIP too early and it should be addressed there.
> > Do not add workarounds where they are not appropriate.
> > 
> So, what alternative can you provide us for now?

As I've already said http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20170727090357.3205-2-mhocko@kernel.org
seems to be a better alternative. I am waiting for further review
feedback before reposting it again.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-04 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-02 23:55 [PATCH] mm, oom: task_will_free_mem(current) should ignore MMF_OOM_SKIP for once Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-03  0:04 ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-03  7:10 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-03  7:53   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-03  8:14     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-04 11:10       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-04 11:26         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-08-04 11:44           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-04 11:52             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-04 11:54 ` Manish Jaggi
2017-08-04 15:24   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-04 15:54     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-19  6:23 ` [PATCH v2] " Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-21  8:43   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-21 11:41     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-21 12:10       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-21 12:57         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-21 13:18           ` Michal Hocko

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