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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, andrea@kernel.org,
	kirill@shutemov.name, oleg@redhat.com,
	wenwei.tww@alibaba-inc.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: fix potential data corruption when oom_reaper races with writer
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:51:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201708142251.v7EMp3j9081456@www262.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170814135919.GO19063@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 12-08-17 00:46:18, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Fri 11-08-17 16:54:36, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > On Fri 11-08-17 11:28:52, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > > > Will you explain the mechanism why random values are written instead of zeros
> > > > > > so that this patch can actually fix the race problem?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am not sure what you mean here. Were you able to see a write with an
> > > > > unexpected content?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes. See http://lkml.kernel.org/r/201708072228.FAJ09347.tOOVOFFQJSHMFL@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp .
> > > 
> > > Ahh, I've missed that random part of your output. That is really strange
> > > because AFAICS the oom reaper shouldn't really interact here. We are
> > > only unmapping anonymous memory and even if a refault slips through we
> > > should always get zeros.
> > > 
> > > Your test case doesn't mmap MAP_PRIVATE of a file so we shouldn't even
> > > get any uninitialized data from a file by missing CoWed content. The
> > > only possible explanations would be that a page fault returned a
> > > non-zero data which would be a bug on its own or that a file write
> > > extend the file without actually writing to it which smells like a fs
> > > bug to me.
> > 
> > As I wrote at http://lkml.kernel.org/r/201708112053.FIG52141.tHJSOQFLOFMFOV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp ,
> > I don't think it is a fs bug.
> 
> Were you able to reproduce with other filesystems?

Yes, I can reproduce this problem using both xfs and ext4 on 4.11.11-200.fc25.x86_64
on Oracle VM VirtualBox on Windows.

I believe that this is not old data from disk, for I can reproduce this problem
using newly attached /dev/sdb which has never written any data (other than data
written by mkfs.xfs and mkfs.ext4).

  /dev/sdb /tmp ext4 rw,seclabel,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
  
The garbage pattern (the last 4096 bytes) is identical for both xfs and ext4.

>                                                    I wonder what is
> different in my testing because I cannot reproduce this at all. Well, I
> had to reduce the number of competing writer threads to 128 because I
> quickly hit the trashing behavior with more of them (and 4 CPUs). I will
> try on a larger machine.

I don't think a larger machine is necessary.
I can reproduce this problem with 8 competing writer threads on 4 CPUs.

I don't have native Linux environment. Maybe that is the difference.
Can you try VMware Workstation Player or Oracle VM VirtualBox environment?

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-14 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-07 11:38 [PATCH 0/2] mm, oom: fix oom_reaper fallouts Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 11:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: fix double mmap_sem unlock on MMF_UNSTABLE enforced SIGBUS Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  0:49   ` David Rientjes
2017-08-07 11:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: fix potential data corruption when oom_reaper races with writer Michal Hocko
2017-08-08 17:48   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-08 23:35     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-09 18:36       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-10  8:21     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 13:33       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  2:28   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-11  7:09     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  7:54       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-11 10:22         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-11 10:42           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-11 11:53             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-11 12:08         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:46           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-14 13:59             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 22:51               ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2017-08-15  6:55                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  8:41                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15 10:06                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-15 12:26                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15 12:58                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-17 13:58                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  5:30               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-07 13:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm, oom: fix oom_reaper fallouts Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-07 14:04   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 15:23     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-15 12:29 ` Michal Hocko

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