From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] mm,page_alloc: Update comment for last second allocation attempt.
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:50:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171108145039.tdueguedqos4rpk5@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1510138908-6265-1-git-send-email-penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
On Wed 08-11-17 20:01:44, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> __alloc_pages_may_oom() is doing last second allocation attempt using
> ALLOC_WMARK_HIGH before calling out_of_memory(). This had two reasons.
>
> The first reason is explained in the comment that it aims to catch
> potential parallel OOM killing. But there is no longer parallel OOM
> killing (in the sense that out_of_memory() is called "concurrently")
> because we serialize out_of_memory() calls using oom_lock.
>
> The second reason is explained by Andrea Arcangeli (who added that code)
> that it aims to reduce the likelihood of OOM livelocks and be sure to
> invoke the OOM killer. There was a risk of livelock or anyway of delayed
> OOM killer invocation if ALLOC_WMARK_MIN is used, for relying on last
> few pages which are constantly allocated and freed in the meantime will
> not improve the situation.
> But there is no longer possibility of OOM
> livelocks or failing to invoke the OOM killer because we need to mask
> __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM for last second allocation attempt because oom_lock
> prevents __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM && !__GFP_NORETRY allocations which last
> second allocation attempt indirectly involve from failing.
This is an unfounded, misleading and actually even wrong statement that
has nothing to do with what Andrea had in mind. __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM
doesn't have anything to do with the livelock as I've already mentioned
several times already.
> Since the OOM killer does not always kill a process consuming significant
> amount of memory (the OOM killer kills a process with highest OOM score
> (or instead one of its children if any)), there will be cases where
> ALLOC_WMARK_HIGH fails and ALLOC_WMARK_MIN succeeds.
This is possible but not really interesting case as already explained.
> Since the gap between ALLOC_WMARK_HIGH and ALLOC_WMARK_MIN can be changed
> by /proc/sys/vm/min_free_kbytes parameter, using ALLOC_WMARK_MIN for last
> second allocation attempt might be better for minimizing number of OOM
> victims. But that change should be done in a separate patch. This patch
> just clarifies that ALLOC_WMARK_HIGH is an arbitrary choice.
Again unfounded claim.
That being said, the comment removing a note about parallel oom killing
is OK. I am not sure this is something worth a separate patch. The
changelog is just wrong and so Nack to the patch.
> Signed-off-by: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
> Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> ---
> mm/page_alloc.c | 9 ++++-----
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index 536431b..613814c 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -3341,11 +3341,10 @@ void warn_alloc(gfp_t gfp_mask, nodemask_t *nodemask, const char *fmt, ...)
> }
>
> /*
> - * Go through the zonelist yet one more time, keep very high watermark
> - * here, this is only to catch a parallel oom killing, we must fail if
> - * we're still under heavy pressure. But make sure that this reclaim
> - * attempt shall not depend on __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM && !__GFP_NORETRY
> - * allocation which will never fail due to oom_lock already held.
> + * This allocation attempt must not depend on __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM &&
> + * !__GFP_NORETRY allocation which will never fail due to oom_lock
> + * already held. And since this allocation attempt does not sleep,
> + * there is no reason we must use high watermark here.
> */
> page = get_page_from_freelist((gfp_mask | __GFP_HARDWALL) &
> ~__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM, order,
> --
> 1.8.3.1
>
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Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-08 14:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-08 11:01 [PATCH 1/5] mm,page_alloc: Update comment for last second allocation attempt Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-08 11:01 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm,oom: Move last second allocation to inside the OOM killer Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-08 14:50 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-08 11:01 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm,oom: Use ALLOC_OOM for OOM victim's last second allocation Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-08 14:50 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-08 11:01 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm,oom: Remove oom_lock serialization from the OOM reaper Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-08 15:03 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-08 11:01 ` [PATCH 5/5] nommu,oom: Set MMF_OOM_SKIP without waiting for termination Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-08 14:56 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-08 16:24 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-09 10:49 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-09 11:27 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-08 14:50 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-11-09 10:45 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm,page_alloc: Update comment for last second allocation attempt Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-09 11:30 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-09 12:19 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-09 12:25 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-09 12:32 ` Michal Hocko
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