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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "mm/page-writeback.c: print a warning if the vm dirtiness settings are illogical" (was: Re: [PATCH] mm: print a warning once the vm dirtiness settings is illogical)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:45:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171128094532.t6pyqrvaczi5a7jz@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbDBgU8d-n9rseeWUyAiYn9YOjL02VMZw1Xt0XhZhWq4-A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 28-11-17 15:52:50, Yafang Shao wrote:
> 2017-11-28 15:45 GMT+08:00 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>:
> > On Tue 28-11-17 14:12:15, Yafang Shao wrote:
> >> 2017-11-28 11:11 GMT+08:00 Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>:
> >> > Hi Michal,
> >> >
> >> > What about bellow change ?
> >> > It makes the function  domain_dirty_limits() more clear.
> >> > And the result will have a higher precision.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > diff --git a/mm/page-writeback.c b/mm/page-writeback.c
> >> > index 8a15511..2b5e507 100644
> >> > --- a/mm/page-writeback.c
> >> > +++ b/mm/page-writeback.c
> >> > @@ -397,8 +397,8 @@ static void domain_dirty_limits(struct
> >> > dirty_throttle_control *dtc)
> >> >     unsigned long bytes = vm_dirty_bytes;
> >> >     unsigned long bg_bytes = dirty_background_bytes;
> >> >     /* convert ratios to per-PAGE_SIZE for higher precision */
> >> > -   unsigned long ratio = (vm_dirty_ratio * PAGE_SIZE) / 100;
> >> > -   unsigned long bg_ratio = (dirty_background_ratio * PAGE_SIZE) / 100;
> >> > +   unsigned long ratio = vm_dirty_ratio;
> >> > +   unsigned long bg_ratio = dirty_background_ratio;
> >> >     unsigned long thresh;
> >> >     unsigned long bg_thresh;
> >> >     struct task_struct *tsk;
> >> > @@ -416,28 +416,33 @@ static void domain_dirty_limits(struct
> >> > dirty_throttle_control *dtc)
> >> >          */
> >> >         if (bytes)
> >> >             ratio = min(DIV_ROUND_UP(bytes, global_avail),
> >> > -                   PAGE_SIZE);
> >> > +                   100);
> >> >         if (bg_bytes)
> >> >             bg_ratio = min(DIV_ROUND_UP(bg_bytes, global_avail),
> >> > -                      PAGE_SIZE);
> >> > +                      99);   /* bg_ratio should less than ratio */
> >> >         bytes = bg_bytes = 0;
> >> >     }
> >>
> >>
> >> Errata:
> >>
> >>         if (bytes)
> >> -           ratio = min(DIV_ROUND_UP(bytes, global_avail),
> >> -                   PAGE_SIZE);
> >> +           ratio = min(DIV_ROUND_UP(bytes / PAGE_SIZE, global_avail),
> >> +                   100);
> >>         if (bg_bytes)
> >> -           bg_ratio = min(DIV_ROUND_UP(bg_bytes, global_avail),
> >> -                      PAGE_SIZE);
> >> +           bg_ratio = min(DIV_ROUND_UP(bg_bytes / PAGE_SIZE, global_avail),
> >> +                      100 - 1); /* bg_ratio should be less than ratio */
> >>         bytes = bg_bytes = 0;
> >
> > And you really think this makes code easier to follow? I am somehow not
> > conviced...
> >
> 
> There's hidden bug in the original code, because it is too complex to
> clearly understand.
> See bellow,
> 
> ratio = min(DIV_ROUND_UP(bytes, global_avail),
>                     PAGE_SIZE)
> 
> Suppose the vm_dirty_bytes is set to 512M (this is a reasonable
> value), and the global_avail is only 10000 pages (this is not low),
> then DIV_ROUND_UP(bytes, global_avail) is 53688, which is bigger than
> 4096, so the ratio will be 4096.
> That's unreasonable.

You should discuss this with IO people (make sure to CC Tejun). I do not
see _why_ this is unreasonable to be honest. Anyway I still maintain
my position on the warning which is just calling for false positives
without any great advantage. So whatever you decide to change in the
ratio calculation I do not think we should add the warning back.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-28  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-28  9:54 [PATCH] mm: print a warning once the vm dirtiness settings is illogical Yafang Shao
2017-11-25 16:05 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-26  2:24   ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-26  2:42     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-26  4:32       ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-26  8:03         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-26  8:27           ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-26  8:46           ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-26 10:38             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-27  8:06               ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-27  8:21                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-27  8:29                   ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-27  8:32                     ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-27  8:37                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-27  8:49                         ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-27  8:52                           ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-27  8:54                             ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-27  9:04                               ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-27  9:08                                 ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-27  8:34                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-27  9:19   ` [PATCH] Revert "mm/page-writeback.c: print a warning if the vm dirtiness settings are illogical" (was: Re: [PATCH] mm: print a warning once the vm dirtiness settings is illogical) Michal Hocko
2017-11-28  3:11     ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-28  6:12       ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-28  7:45         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-28  7:52           ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-28  9:43             ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-28  9:45             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-11-28 10:09             ` Jan Kara
2017-11-28 10:16               ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-28 10:25       ` Jan Kara
2017-11-28 10:33         ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-28 10:41           ` Jan Kara
2017-11-28 10:44             ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-28 10:37     ` Jan Kara
2017-11-28 10:48       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-28 11:05         ` Yafang Shao
2017-11-28 11:54           ` Michal Hocko

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