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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: mhocko@kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	guro@fb.com, tj@kernel.org, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held.
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 22:16:52 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201803222216.HED73490.HJFOVFLFQMtOSO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180322114554.GD23100@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 22-03-18 19:51:56, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> [...]
> > The whole point of the sleep is to give the OOM victim some time to exit.
> 
> Yes, and that is why we sleep under the lock because that would rule all
> other potential out_of_memory callers from jumping in.

As long as there is !MMF_OOM_SKIP mm, jumping in does not cause problems.

But since this patch did not remove mutex_lock() from the OOM reaper,
nobody can jump in until the OOM reaper completes the first reclaim attempt.
And since it is likely that mutex_trylock() by the OOM reaper succeeds,
somebody unlikely finds !MMF_OOM_SKIP mm when it jumped in.

> 
> > However, the sleep can prevent contending allocating paths from hitting
> > the OOM path again even if the OOM victim was able to exit. We need to
> > make sure that the thread which called out_of_memory() will release
> > oom_lock shortly. Thus, this patch brings the sleep to outside of the OOM
> > path. Since the OOM reaper waits for the oom_lock, this patch unlikely
> > allows contending allocating paths to hit the OOM path earlier than now.
> 
> The sleep outside of the lock doesn't make much sense to me. It is
> basically contradicting its original purpose. If we do want to throttle
> direct reclaimers than OK but this patch is not the way how to do that.
> 
> If you really believe that the sleep is more harmful than useful, then
> fair enough, I would rather see it removed than shuffled all over
> outside the lock. 

Yes, I do believe that the sleep with oom_lock held is more harmful than useful.
Please remove the sleep (but be careful not to lose the guaranteed sleep for
PF_WQ_WORKER).

> 
> So
> Nacked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-22 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-22 10:51 [PATCH] mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-22 11:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-22 13:16   ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-05-12 14:18 Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-15  9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-18 10:14   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-18 12:20     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-20 15:56       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-22  6:18         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 10:24           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-23 11:57             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 13:45               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-23 14:56                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 10:51                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-24 11:50                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25  1:17                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-25  8:31                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25 10:57                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-25 11:42                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25 11:46                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-28 12:43                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 20:57                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-29  7:17                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 23:07                                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-31 10:10                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-31 10:44                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 15:23                                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-31 18:47                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01  1:21                                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-01  8:04                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 15:28                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 21:11                                           ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-04  7:04                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 10:41                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-04 11:22                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 11:30                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-06  9:02                                                 ` David Rientjes
2018-06-06 13:37                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-06 18:44                                                     ` David Rientjes
2018-05-29  7:17             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29  8:16               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 14:33                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-29 17:18                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 17:28                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-22 13:46 Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-23  8:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 12:07   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-23 12:42     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 13:28       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-13 11:58         ` Tetsuo Handa

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