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From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, tj@kernel.org, gthelen@google.com
Subject: Re: cgroup-aware OOM killer, how to move forward
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 15:16:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180713221602.GA15005@castle.DHCP.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1807131423230.194789@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 02:34:49PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> 
> > I was thinking on how to move forward with the cgroup-aware OOM killer.
> > It looks to me, that we all agree on the "cleanup" part of the patchset:
> > it's a nice feature to be able to kill all tasks in the cgroup
> > to guarantee the consistent state of the workload.
> > All our disagreements are related to the victim selection algorithm.
> > 
> > So, I wonder, if the right thing to do is to split the problem.
> > We can agree on the "cleanup" part, which is useful by itself,
> > merge it upstream, and then return to the victim selection
> > algorithm.
> > 
> > So, here is my proposal:
> > let's introduce the memory.group_oom knob with the following semantics:
> > if the knob is set, the OOM killer can kill either none, either all
> > tasks in the cgroup*.
> > It can perfectly work with the current OOM killer (as a "cleanup" option),
> > and allows _any_ further approach on the OOM victim selection.
> > It also doesn't require any mount/boot/tree-wide options.
> > 
> > How does it sound?
> > 
> 
> No objection, of course, this was always the mechanism vs policy 
> separation that I was referring to.  Having the ability to kill all 
> processes attached to the cgroup when one of its processes is selected is 
> useful, and we have our own patches that do just that, with the exception 
> that it's triggerable by the user.

Perfect! I'll prepare the patchset.

> 
> One of the things that I really like about cgroup v2, though, is what 
> appears to be an implicit, but rather apparent, goal to minimize the 
> number of files for each controller.  It's very clean.  So I'd suggest 
> that we consider memory.group_oom, or however it is named, to allow for 
> future development.
> 
> For example, rather than simply being binary, we'd probably want the 
> ability to kill all eligible processes attached directly to the victim's 
> mem cgroup *or* all processes attached to its subtree as well.
> 
> I'd suggest it be implemented to accept a string, "default"/"process", 
> "local" or "tree"/"hierarchy", or better names, to define the group oom 
> mechanism for the mem cgroup that is oom when one of its processes is 
> selected as a victim.

I would prefer to keep it boolean to match the simplicity of cgroup v2 API.
In v2 hierarchy processes can't be attached to non-leaf cgroups,
so I don't see the place for the 3rd meaning.

> 
> > * More precisely: if the OOM killer kills a task,
> > it will traverse the cgroup tree up to the OOM domain (OOMing memcg or root),
> > looking for the highest-level cgroup with group_oom set. Then it will
> > kill all tasks in such cgroup, if it does exist.
> > 
> 
> All such processes that are not oom disabled, yes.
> 

Yep, of course.

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-13 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-11 22:40 cgroup-aware OOM killer, how to move forward Roman Gushchin
2018-07-12 12:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-12 15:55   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-13 21:34 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 22:16   ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2018-07-13 22:39     ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 23:05       ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-13 23:11         ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 23:16           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17  4:19             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-17 12:41               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 17:38               ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17 19:49                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 20:06                   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17 20:41                     ` David Rientjes
2018-07-17 20:52                       ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-20  8:30                         ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 11:21                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-20 16:13                             ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-20 20:28                             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 20:47                               ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-23 23:06                                 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 14:12                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18  8:19                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18  8:12                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18 15:28                       ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-19  7:38                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-19 17:05                           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-20  8:32                             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 14:17                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 15:09                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24  7:32                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:08                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 13:26                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:31                                       ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 13:50                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:55                                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:25                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:28                                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:35                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:43                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:49                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 15:52                                                     ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-25 12:00                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-25 11:58                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30  8:03                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:04                                         ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-30 15:29                                           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-24 11:59 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-25  0:10   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-25 12:23     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-25 13:01       ` Michal Hocko

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