From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Marinko Catovic <marinko.catovic@gmail.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Caching/buffers become useless after some time
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 14:00:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180806120042.GL19540@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADF2uSocjT5Oz=1Wohahjf5-58YpT2Jm2vTQKuqA=8ywBFwCaQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon 06-08-18 12:29:43, Marinko Catovic wrote:
> > Maybe a memcg with kmemcg limit? Michal could know more.
>
> Could you/Michael explain this perhaps?
The only way how kmemcg limit could help I can think of would be to
enforce metadata reclaim much more often. But that is rather a bad
workaround.
> The hardware is pretty much high end datacenter grade, I really would
> not know how this is to be related with the hardware :(
Well, there are some drivers (mostly out-of-tree) which are high order
hungry. You can try to trace all allocations which with order > 0 and
see who that might be.
# mount -t tracefs none /debug/trace/
# echo stacktrace > /debug/trace/trace_options
# echo "order>0" > /debug/trace/events/kmem/mm_page_alloc/filter
# echo 1 > /debug/trace/events/kmem/mm_page_alloc/enable
# cat /debug/trace/trace_pipe
And later this to disable tracing.
# echo 0 > /debug/trace/events/kmem/mm_page_alloc/enable
> I do not understand why apparently the caching is working very much
> fine for the beginning after a drop_caches, then degrades to low usage
> somewhat later.
Because a lot of FS metadata is fragmenting the memory and a large
number of high order allocations which want to be served reclaim a lot
of memory to achieve their gol. Considering a large part of memory is
fragmented by unmovable objects there is no other way than to use
reclaim to release that memory.
> I can not possibly drop caches automatically, since
> this requires monitoring for overload with temporary dropping traffic
> on specific ports until the writes/reads cool down.
You do not have to drop all caches. echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
should be sufficient to drop metadata only.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-06 12:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-11 13:18 Caching/buffers become useless after some time Marinko Catovic
2018-07-12 11:34 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-13 15:48 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-07-16 15:53 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-07-16 16:23 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 16:33 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-07-16 16:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-20 22:03 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-07-27 11:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-30 14:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 22:08 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-02 16:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-03 14:13 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-06 9:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-06 10:29 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-06 12:00 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-08-06 15:37 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-08-06 18:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-09 8:29 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-21 0:36 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-21 6:49 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 7:19 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-22 20:02 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-23 12:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-23 12:21 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 0:11 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-24 6:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-24 8:11 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-24 8:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-29 14:54 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-29 15:01 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 15:13 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-29 15:27 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 16:44 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-22 1:19 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-23 17:41 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-26 5:48 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-26 8:01 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-26 23:31 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-27 6:42 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <6e3a9434-32f2-0388-e0c7-2bd1c2ebc8b1@suse.cz>
2018-10-30 15:30 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-30 16:08 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-30 17:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-10-30 18:26 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-31 7:34 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-31 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-31 13:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-10-31 14:53 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-31 17:01 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-31 19:21 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-01 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-01 22:46 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-02 8:05 ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-02 11:31 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-02 11:49 ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-02 12:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-02 12:41 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-02 13:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-02 13:50 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-02 14:49 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-02 14:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-30 12:01 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-12-10 21:30 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-12-10 21:47 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-31 13:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-24 6:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
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