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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] mm: speed up mremap by 500x on large regions (v2)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 14:11:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181026211148.GA140716@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181025101900.phqnqpoju5t2gar5@kshutemo-mobl1>

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 07:09:07PM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 03:57:24PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:57:33PM +1100, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 01:12:56PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 06:31:58PM -0700, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
> > > > > > diff --git a/mm/mremap.c b/mm/mremap.c
> > > > > > index 9e68a02a52b1..2fd163cff406 100644
> > > > > > --- a/mm/mremap.c
> > > > > > +++ b/mm/mremap.c
> > > > > > @@ -191,6 +191,54 @@ static void move_ptes(struct vm_area_struct *vma, pmd_t *old_pmd,
> > > > > >  		drop_rmap_locks(vma);
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +static bool move_normal_pmd(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long old_addr,
> > > > > > +		  unsigned long new_addr, unsigned long old_end,
> > > > > > +		  pmd_t *old_pmd, pmd_t *new_pmd, bool *need_flush)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +	spinlock_t *old_ptl, *new_ptl;
> > > > > > +	struct mm_struct *mm = vma->vm_mm;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	if ((old_addr & ~PMD_MASK) || (new_addr & ~PMD_MASK)
> > > > > > +	    || old_end - old_addr < PMD_SIZE)
> > > > > > +		return false;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/*
> > > > > > +	 * The destination pmd shouldn't be established, free_pgtables()
> > > > > > +	 * should have release it.
> > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!pmd_none(*new_pmd)))
> > > > > > +		return false;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/*
> > > > > > +	 * We don't have to worry about the ordering of src and dst
> > > > > > +	 * ptlocks because exclusive mmap_sem prevents deadlock.
> > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > +	old_ptl = pmd_lock(vma->vm_mm, old_pmd);
> > > > > > +	if (old_ptl) {
> > > > > 
> > > > > How can it ever be false?
> > 
> > Kirill,
> > It cannot, you are right. I'll remove the test.
> > 
> > By the way, there are new changes upstream by Linus which flush the TLB
> > before releasing the ptlock instead of after. I'm guessing that patch came
> > about because of reviews of this patch and someone spotted an issue in the
> > existing code :)
> > 
> > Anyway the patch in concern is:
> > eb66ae030829 ("mremap: properly flush TLB before releasing the page")
> > 
> > I need to rebase on top of that with appropriate modifications, but I worry
> > that this patch will slow down performance since we have to flush at every
> > PMD/PTE move before releasing the ptlock. Where as with my patch, the
> > intention is to flush only at once in the end of move_page_tables. When I
> > tried to flush TLB on every PMD move, it was quite slow on my arm64 device [2].
> > 
> > Further observation [1] is, it seems like the move_huge_pmds and move_ptes code
> > is a bit sub optimal in the sense, we are acquiring and releasing the same
> > ptlock for a bunch of PMDs if the said PMDs are on the same page-table page
> > right? Instead we can do better by acquiring and release the ptlock less
> > often.
> > 
> > I think this observation [1] and the frequent TLB flush issue [2] can be solved
> > by acquiring the ptlock once for a bunch of PMDs, move them all, then flush
> > the tlb and then release the ptlock, and then proceed to doing the same thing
> > for the PMDs in the next page-table page. What do you think?
> 
> Yeah, that's viable optimization.
> 
> The tricky part is that one PMD page table can have PMD entires of
> different types: THP, page table that you can move as whole and the one
> that you cannot (for any reason).
> 
> If we cannot move the PMD entry as a whole and must go to PTE page table
> we would need to drop PMD ptl and take PTE ptl (it might be the same lock
> in some configuations).

> Also we don't want to take PMD lock unless it's required.
> 
> I expect it to be not very trivial to get everything right. But take a
> shot :)

Yes, that is exactly the issue I hit when I attempted it. :) The locks need
to be release if we do something different on the next loop iteration. It
complicates the code and not sure if it is worth it in the long run.  On x86
atleast, I don't see any perf issues with the TLB-flush per-PMD move, so the
patch is Ok there. On arm64, it negates the performance benefit even though
its not any worse than what we are doing currently at the PTE level.

My thinking is to take it slow and get the patch in in its current state,
since it improves x86. Then as a next step, look into why the arm64 tlb
flushes are that expensive and look into optimizing that. On arm64 I am
testing on a 4.9 kernel so I'm wondering there are any optimizations since
4.9 that can help speed it up there. After that, if all else fails about
speeding up arm64, then I look into developing the cleanest possible solution
where we can keep the lock held for longer and flush lesser.

thanks,

 - Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-26 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-13  1:31 [PATCH 0/4] Add support for fast mremap Joel Fernandes (Google)
2018-10-13  1:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] treewide: remove unused address argument from pte_alloc functions (v2) Joel Fernandes (Google)
2018-10-24  8:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-25  2:21     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-26  8:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-25 10:47     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-26  8:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-13  1:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: speed up mremap by 500x on large regions (v2) Joel Fernandes (Google)
2018-10-15  9:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-15 22:33     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-16 11:29       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-10-16 19:43         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-17  7:38           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-10-24 10:12   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-24 11:57     ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-24 12:57       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-25  2:09         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-25 10:19           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-26 21:11             ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2018-10-29 10:28               ` Will Deacon
2018-10-25  2:13       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-27 10:21         ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-27 19:39           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-28 22:40             ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-13  1:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: select HAVE_MOVE_PMD for faster mremap (v1) Joel Fernandes (Google)
2018-10-13  1:32 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: " Joel Fernandes (Google)

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