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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2] mm/kvmalloc: do not call kmalloc for size > KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:55:19 +0100
Message-ID: <20181101165519.GM23921@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae51e16b-459c-7d59-6277-b1a197dbf5ff@yandex-team.ru>

On Thu 01-11-18 19:42:48, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> On 01.11.2018 15:55, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 01-11-18 13:48:17, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 01.11.2018 13:24, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Thu 01-11-18 13:09:16, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> > > > > Allocations over KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE could be served only by vmalloc.
> > > > 
> > > > I would go on and say that allocations with sizes too large can actually
> > > > trigger a warning (once you have posted in the previous version outside
> > > > of the changelog area) because that might be interesting to people -
> > > > there are deployments to panic on warning and then a warning is much
> > > > more important.
> > > 
> > > It seems that warning isn't completely valid.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __alloc_pages_slowpath() handles this more gracefully:
> > > 
> > > 	/*
> > > 	 * In the slowpath, we sanity check order to avoid ever trying to
> > > 	 * reclaim >= MAX_ORDER areas which will never succeed. Callers may
> > > 	 * be using allocators in order of preference for an area that is
> > > 	 * too large.
> > > 	 */
> > > 	if (order >= MAX_ORDER) {
> > > 		WARN_ON_ONCE(!(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOWARN));
> > > 		return NULL;
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Fast path is ready for order >= MAX_ORDER
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Problem is in node_reclaim() which is called earlier than __alloc_pages_slowpath()
> > > from surprising place - get_page_from_freelist()
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Probably node_reclaim() simply needs something like this:
> > > 
> > > 	if (order >= MAX_ORDER)
> > > 		return NODE_RECLAIM_NOSCAN;
> > 
> > Maybe but the point is that triggering this warning is possible. Even if
> > the warning is bogus it doesn't really make much sense to even try
> > kmalloc if the size is not supported by the allocator.
> > 
> 
> But __GFP_NOWARN allocation (like in this case) should just fail silently
> without warnings regardless of reason because caller can deal with that.

__GFP_NOWARN is not about no warning to be triggered from the allocation
context. It is more about not complaining about the allocation failure.
I do not think we want to check the gfp mask in all possible paths
triggered from the allocator/reclaim.

I have just looked at the original warning you have hit and it came from
88d6ac40c1c6 ("mm/vmstat: fix divide error at __fragmentation_index"). I
would argue that the warning is a bit of an over-reaction. Regardless of
the gfp_mask.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-01  9:12 [PATCH] mm/kvmalloc: do not confuse kmalloc with page order over MAX_ORDER Konstantin Khlebnikov
2018-11-01  9:33 ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-01 10:09 ` [PATCH 2] mm/kvmalloc: do not call kmalloc for size > KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE Konstantin Khlebnikov
2018-11-01 10:24   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-01 10:48     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2018-11-01 12:55       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-01 16:42         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2018-11-01 16:55           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-11-05 13:03   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-05 16:19     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2018-11-05 16:52       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-05 16:57       ` Michal Hocko

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