From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-it1-f197.google.com (mail-it1-f197.google.com [209.85.166.197]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682E46B04EB for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 05:28:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-it1-f197.google.com with SMTP id s195-v6so1715577itc.6 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org. [2001:8b0:10b:1231::1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m25si403101itn.134.2018.11.07.02.28.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:28:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 11:27:52 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 01/13] ktask: add documentation Message-ID: <20181107102752.GK9781@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20181105165558.11698-1-daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com> <20181105165558.11698-2-daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com> <20181106084911.GA22504@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20181106203411.pdce6tgs7dncwflh@ca-dmjordan1.us.oracle.com> <20181106205146.GB30490@mellanox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181106205146.GB30490@mellanox.com> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Jason Gunthorpe Cc: Daniel Jordan , "rjw@rjwysocki.net" , "linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , "kvm@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "aarcange@redhat.com" , "aaron.lu@intel.com" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "alex.williamson@redhat.com" , "bsd@redhat.com" , "darrick.wong@oracle.com" , "dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" , "jwadams@google.com" , "jiangshanlai@gmail.com" , "mhocko@kernel.org" , "mike.kravetz@oracle.com" , "Pavel.Tatashin@microsoft.com" , "prasad.singamsetty@oracle.com" , "rdunlap@infradead.org" , "steven.sistare@oracle.com" , "tim.c.chen@intel.com" , "tj@kernel.org" , "vbabka@suse.cz" On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 08:51:54PM +0000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 12:34:11PM -0800, Daniel Jordan wrote: > > > > What isn't clear is if this calling thread is waiting or not. Only do > > > this inheritance trick if it is actually waiting on the work. If it is > > > not, nobody cares. > > > > The calling thread waits. Even if it didn't though, the inheritance trick > > would still be desirable for timely completion of the job. > > Can you make lockdep aware that this is synchronous? > > ie if I do > > mutex_lock() > ktask_run() > mutex_lock() > > Can lockdep know that all the workers are running under that lock? > > I'm thinking particularly about rtnl_lock as a possible case, but > there could also make some sense to hold the read side of the mm_sem > or similar like the above. Yes, the normal trick is adding a fake lock to ktask_run and holding that over the actual job. See lock_map* in flush_workqueue() vs process_one_work().