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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, pifang@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	aarcange@redhat.com, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Memory hotplug softlock issue
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:31:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181121173123.GS12932@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1811192127130.2848@eggly.anvils>

On Mon 19-11-18 21:44:41, Hugh Dickins wrote:
[...]
> [PATCH] mm: put_and_wait_on_page_locked() while page is migrated
> 
> We have all assumed that it is essential to hold a page reference while
> waiting on a page lock: partly to guarantee that there is still a struct
> page when MEMORY_HOTREMOVE is configured, but also to protect against
> reuse of the struct page going to someone who then holds the page locked
> indefinitely, when the waiter can reasonably expect timely unlocking.

I would add the following for the "problem statement". Feel free to
reuse per your preference:
"
An elevated reference count, however, stands in the way of migration and
forces it to fail with a bad timing. This is especially a problem for
memory offlining which retries for ever (or until the operation is
terminated from userspace) because a heavy refault workload can trigger
essentially an endless loop of migration failures. Therefore
__migration_entry_wait is essentially harmful for the even it is waiting
for.
"

> But in fact, so long as wait_on_page_bit_common() does the put_page(),
> and is careful not to rely on struct page contents thereafter, there is
> no need to hold a reference to the page while waiting on it.  That does
> mean that this case cannot go back through the loop: but that's fine for
> the page migration case, and even if used more widely, is limited by the
> "Stop walking if it's locked" optimization in wake_page_function().

I would appreciate this would be more explicit about the existence of
the elevated-ref-count problem but it reduces it to a tiny time window
compared to the whole time the waiter is blocked. So a great
improvement.

> Add interface put_and_wait_on_page_locked() to do this, using negative
> value of the lock arg to wait_on_page_bit_common() to implement it.
> No interruptible or killable variant needed yet, but they might follow:
> I have a vague notion that reporting -EINTR should take precedence over
> return from wait_on_page_bit_common() without knowing the page state,
> so arrange it accordingly - but that may be nothing but pedantic.
> 
> shrink_page_list()'s __ClearPageLocked(): that was a surprise!

and I can imagine a bad one. Do we really have to be so clever here?
The unlock_page went away in the name of performance (a978d6f521063)
and I would argue that this is a slow path where this is just not worth
it.

> this
> survived a lot of testing before that showed up.  It does raise the
> question: should is_page_cache_freeable() and __remove_mapping() now
> treat a PG_waiters page as if an extra reference were held?  Perhaps,
> but I don't think it matters much, since shrink_page_list() already
> had to win its trylock_page(), so waiters are not very common there: I
> noticed no difference when trying the bigger change, and it's surely not
> needed while put_and_wait_on_page_locked() is only for page migration.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>

The patch looks good to me - quite ugly but it doesn't make the existing
code much worse.

With the problem described Vlastimil fixed, feel free to add
Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

And thanks for a prompt patch. This is something I've been chasing for
quite some time. __migration_entry_wait came to my radar only recently
because this is an extremely volatile area.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-21 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-14  7:09 Memory hotplug softlock issue Baoquan He
2018-11-14  7:16 ` Baoquan He
2018-11-14  8:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14  9:00   ` Baoquan He
2018-11-14  9:25     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14  9:41       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-14  9:48         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14 10:04           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-14  9:01   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-14  9:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14  9:37       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-14  9:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14 14:52     ` Baoquan He
2018-11-14 15:00       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15  5:10         ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15  7:30           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15  7:53             ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15  8:30               ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15  9:42                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-15  9:52                   ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15  9:53                     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-15 13:12                 ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15 13:19                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15 13:23                     ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15 14:25                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15 13:38                     ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15 14:32                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15 14:34                         ` Baoquan He
2018-11-16  1:24                         ` Baoquan He
2018-11-16  9:14                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-17  4:22                             ` Baoquan He
2018-11-19 10:52                             ` Baoquan He
2018-11-19 12:40                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 12:51                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 14:10                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 16:36                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-19 16:46                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 16:46                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-19 16:48                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-19 17:01                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 17:33                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 20:34                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-19 20:59                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-20  1:56                                           ` Baoquan He
2018-11-20  5:44                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-20 13:38                                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-20 13:58                                                 ` Baoquan He
2018-11-20 14:05                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-20 14:12                                                     ` Baoquan He
2018-11-21  1:21                                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-21  1:08                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-21  3:20                                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-21 17:31                                               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-11-22  1:53                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-14 10:00 ` Michal Hocko

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