From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-f72.google.com (mail-ed1-f72.google.com [209.85.208.72]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43FA8E0001 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 07:15:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ed1-f72.google.com with SMTP id f17so25531387edm.20 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 04:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.suse.de (mx2.suse.de. [195.135.220.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g51si716879edg.7.2018.12.28.04.15.16 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 28 Dec 2018 04:15:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:15:15 +0100 From: Michal Hocko Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 00/21] PMEM NUMA node and hotness accounting/migration Message-ID: <20181228121515.GS16738@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <20181226131446.330864849@intel.com> <20181227203158.GO16738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181228050806.ewpxtwo3fpw7h3lq@wfg-t540p.sh.intel.com> <20181228084105.GQ16738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181228094208.7lgxhha34zpqu4db@wfg-t540p.sh.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181228094208.7lgxhha34zpqu4db@wfg-t540p.sh.intel.com> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Fengguang Wu Cc: Andrew Morton , Linux Memory Management List , kvm@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Fan Du , Yao Yuan , Peng Dong , Huang Ying , Liu Jingqi , Dong Eddie , Dave Hansen , Zhang Yi , Dan Williams On Fri 28-12-18 17:42:08, Wu Fengguang wrote: [...] > Those look unnecessary complexities for this post. This v2 patchset > mainly fulfills our first milestone goal: a minimal viable solution > that's relatively clean to backport. Even when preparing for new > upstreamable versions, it may be good to keep it simple for the > initial upstream inclusion. On the other hand this is creating a new NUMA semantic and I would like to have something long term thatn let's throw something in now and care about long term later. So I would really prefer to talk about long term plans first and only care about implementation details later. > > I haven't looked at the implementation yet but if you are proposing a > > special cased zone lists then this is something CDM (Coherent Device > > Memory) was trying to do two years ago and there was quite some > > skepticism in the approach. > > It looks we are pretty different than CDM. :) > We creating new NUMA nodes rather than CDM's new ZONE. > The zonelists modification is just to make PMEM nodes more separated. Yes, this is exactly what CDM was after. Have a zone which is not reachable without explicit request AFAIR. So no, I do not think you are too different, you just use a different terminology ;) -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs