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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
Cc: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	linux_lkml_grp@oracle.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>, Boaz Harrosh <boazh@netapp.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: align anon mmap for THP
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:24:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190115082450.stl6vlrgbvikbwzq@kshutemo-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50c6abdc-b906-d16a-2f8f-8647b3d129aa@oracle.com>

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:54:45AM -0800, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> On 1/14/19 7:35 AM, Steven Sistare wrote:
> > On 1/11/2019 6:28 PM, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> >> On 1/11/19 1:55 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 08:10:03PM +0000, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> >>>> At LPC last year, Boaz Harrosh asked why he had to 'jump through hoops'
> >>>> to get an address returned by mmap() suitably aligned for THP.  It seems
> >>>> that if mmap is asking for a mapping length greater than huge page
> >>>> size, it should align the returned address to huge page size.
> > 
> > A better heuristic would be to return an aligned address if the length
> > is a multiple of the huge page size.  The gap (if any) between the end of
> > the previous VMA and the start of this VMA would be filled by subsequent
> > smaller mmap requests.  The new behavior would need to become part of the
> > mmap interface definition so apps can rely on it and omit their hoop-jumping
> > code.
> 
> Yes, the heuristic really should be 'length is a multiple of the huge page
> size'.  As you mention, this would still leave gaps.  I need to look closer
> but this may not be any worse than the trick of mapping an area with rounded
> up length and then unmapping pages at the beginning.

The question why is it any better. Virtual address space is generally
cheap, additional VMA maybe more signficiant due to find_vma() overhead.

And you don't *need* to unmap anything. Just use alinged pointer.

> 
> When I sent this out, the thought in the back of my mind was that this doesn't
> really matter unless there is some type of alignment guarantee.  Otherwise,
> user space code needs continue employing their code to check/force alignment.
> Making matters somewhat worse is that I do not believe there is C interface to
> query huge page size.  I thought there was discussion about adding one, but I
> can not find it.

We have posix_memalign(3).


-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-15  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-11 20:10 [RFC PATCH] mm: align anon mmap for THP Mike Kravetz
2019-01-11 21:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-01-11 23:28   ` Mike Kravetz
2019-01-14 13:50     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-01-14 16:29       ` Harrosh, Boaz
2019-01-14 16:40         ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-14 16:54           ` Harrosh, Boaz
2019-01-14 18:02             ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-14 15:35     ` Steven Sistare
2019-01-14 16:40       ` Harrosh, Boaz
2019-01-14 18:54       ` Mike Kravetz
2019-01-14 19:26         ` Steven Sistare
2019-01-15  8:24         ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2019-01-15 18:08           ` Mike Kravetz

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