From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mincore: allow for making sys_mincore() privileged
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 16:54:49 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjc2inOae8+9-DK4jFK78-7ZpNR=TEyZg0Dj57SYwP-ng@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190116045449.K5YFd4xzS3Mnc0qEagoMK3KGHWEXUhWeSJSyASvLVtk@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190115234510.GA6173@dastard>
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 11:45 AM Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>
> I'm assuming that you can invalidate the page cache reliably by a
> means that does not repeated require probing to detect invalidation
> has occurred. I've mentioned one method in this discussion
> already...
Yes. And it was made clear to you that it was a bug in xfs dio and
what the right thing to do was.
And you ignored that, and claimed it was a feature.
Why do you then bother arguing this thing? We absolutely agree that
xfs has an information leak. If you don't care, just _say_ so. Don't
try to argue against other people who are trying to fix things.
We can easily just say "ok, xfs people don't care", and ignore the xfs
invalidation issue. That's fine.
But don't try to make it a big deal for other filesystems that _don't_
have the bug. I even pointed out how ext4 does the page cache flushing
correcrly. You pooh-poohed it.
You can't have it both ways.
Either you care or you don't. If you don't care (and so far everything
you said seems to imply you don't), then why are you even discussing
this? Just admit you don't care, and we're done.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-16 4:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 215+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-05 17:27 [PATCH] mm/mincore: allow for making sys_mincore() privileged Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 17:27 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 19:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-05 19:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 19:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 19:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-08 9:14 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2019-01-08 11:37 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-08 11:37 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-08 13:53 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2019-01-08 14:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-01-05 19:44 ` kbuild test robot
2019-01-05 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 20:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 20:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 20:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 20:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 20:43 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 20:43 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 11:33 ` Kevin Easton
2019-01-08 8:50 ` Kevin Easton
2019-01-18 14:23 ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-05 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 19:56 ` kbuild test robot
2019-01-05 22:54 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-05 22:54 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-05 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 0:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-06 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 21:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 21:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-08 4:43 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-08 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-08 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-09 2:24 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-09 2:31 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-09 2:31 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-09 4:39 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-09 10:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-09 10:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-10 1:15 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 7:54 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-10 7:54 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-09 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-09 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 0:44 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 5:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-10 5:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-10 14:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-10 21:44 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 1:47 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 7:03 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 11:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 11:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 12:24 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-10 12:24 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-10 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 2:03 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-11 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 4:04 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-11 4:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-11 7:20 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-11 7:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 7:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 7:36 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-11 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-15 23:45 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-16 4:54 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2019-01-16 4:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-17 1:26 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-20 15:49 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-01-11 4:57 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-11 7:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 7:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 7:32 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-16 0:42 ` Josh Snyder
2019-01-16 5:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-16 5:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:46 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-16 5:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 6:34 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-16 7:52 ` Josh Snyder
2019-01-16 7:52 ` Josh Snyder
2019-01-16 12:18 ` Kevin Easton
2019-01-17 21:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-18 4:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-18 4:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-18 18:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-16 16:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 16:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 20:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 20:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 21:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-16 21:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 21:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-17 9:52 ` Cyril Hrubis
2019-01-28 13:49 ` Cyril Hrubis
2019-01-17 4:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-17 4:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-18 4:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-18 4:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-17 1:49 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-23 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-23 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-23 20:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-23 20:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-23 23:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-23 23:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-24 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-24 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-24 0:24 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-24 12:45 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-24 14:25 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-24 14:25 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-27 22:35 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-27 22:35 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-28 0:05 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-29 23:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-30 9:09 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-30 12:29 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 12:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-10 14:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-11 7:36 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-11 7:36 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-17 2:22 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-17 8:18 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-17 8:18 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-17 21:06 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-07 4:32 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-07 10:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-07 11:08 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-07 11:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-07 13:29 ` Daniel Gruss
2019-01-07 10:10 ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-05 23:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 23:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-30 12:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] mincore() and IOCB_NOWAIT adjustments Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-30 12:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/mincore: make mincore() more conservative Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-31 9:43 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 9:51 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-31 17:46 ` Josh Snyder
2019-02-01 8:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-06 23:13 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-07 0:01 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-03-07 0:40 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-03-07 5:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-30 12:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/filemap: initiate readahead even if IOCB_NOWAIT is set for the I/O Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-30 15:04 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-30 15:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 10:47 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-31 11:34 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 9:56 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 10:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 10:23 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 10:30 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 11:32 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-01 5:13 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-01 7:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-01 7:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-01 1:44 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-12 15:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 12:04 ` Daniel Gruss
2019-01-31 12:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-31 12:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 12:57 ` Daniel Gruss
2019-01-30 12:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/mincore: provide mapped status when cached status is not allowed Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-31 10:09 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-01 9:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-02-01 9:11 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-01 9:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-02-06 20:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-02-12 3:44 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-02-12 6:36 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-12 13:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-02-12 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-06 12:11 ` [PATCH 0/3] mincore() and IOCB_NOWAIT adjustments Jiri Kosina
2019-03-06 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-06 22:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-03-06 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-06 23:32 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-03-06 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-09 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-12 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] prevent mincore() page cache leaks Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-12 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/mincore: make mincore() more conservative Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-12 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/mincore: provide mapped status when cached status is not allowed Vlastimil Babka
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