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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [Question] Should direct reclaim time be bounded?
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 23:44:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190711154452.4940-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)


On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 02:42:56 +0800 Mike Kravetz wrote:
> On 7/7/19 10:19 PM, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:15:51 -0700 Mike Kravetz wrote:
> >> On 7/1/19 1:59 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think it would be reasonable to have should_continue_reclaim allow an
> >>> exit if scanning at higher priority than DEF_PRIORITY - 2, nr_scanned is
> >>> less than SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX and no pages are being reclaimed.
> >>
> >> Thanks Mel,
> >>
> >> I added such a check to should_continue_reclaim.  However, it does not
> >> address the issue I am seeing.  In that do-while loop in shrink_node,
> >> the scan priority is not raised (priority--).  We can enter the loop
> >> with priority == DEF_PRIORITY and continue to loop for minutes as seen
> >> in my previous debug output.
> >>
> > Does it help raise prioity in your case?
> 
> Thanks Hillf,  sorry for delay in responding I have been AFK.
> 
> I am not sure if you wanted to try this somehow in addition to Mel's
> suggestion, or alone.
> 
I wanted you might take a look at it if you continued to have difficulty
raising scanning priority.

> Unfortunately, such a change actually causes worse behavior.
> 
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -2543,11 +2543,18 @@ static inline bool should_continue_reclaim(struct pglist_data *pgdat,
> >  	unsigned long pages_for_compaction;
> >  	unsigned long inactive_lru_pages;
> >  	int z;
> > +	bool costly_fg_reclaim = false;
> > 
> >  	/* If not in reclaim/compaction mode, stop */
> >  	if (!in_reclaim_compaction(sc))
> >  		return false;
> > 
> > +	/* Let compact determine what to do for high order allocators */
> > +	costly_fg_reclaim = sc->order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER &&
> > +				!current_is_kswapd();
> > +	if (costly_fg_reclaim)
> > +		goto check_compact;
> 
> This goto makes us skip the 'if (!nr_reclaimed && !nr_scanned)' test.
> 
Correct.

> > +
> >  	/* Consider stopping depending on scan and reclaim activity */
> >  	if (sc->gfp_mask & __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL) {
> >  		/*
> > @@ -2571,6 +2578,7 @@ static inline bool should_continue_reclaim(struct pglist_data *pgdat,
> >  			return false;
> >  	}
> > 
> > +check_compact:
> >  	/*
> >  	 * If we have not reclaimed enough pages for compaction and the
> >  	 * inactive lists are large enough, continue reclaiming
> 
> It is quite easy to hit the condition where:
> nr_reclaimed == 0  && nr_scanned == 0 is true, but we skip the previous test
> 
Erm it is becoming harder to imagine what prevented you from raising priority
when it was not difficult to hit the true condition above.

And I see the following in the mail thread,
===
	Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:20:42 -0700
	Message-ID: <dede2f84-90bf-347a-2a17-fb6b521bf573@oracle.com> (raw)
	In-Reply-To: <04329fea-cd34-4107-d1d4-b2098ebab0ec@suse.cz>

	I got back to looking into the direct reclaim/compaction stalls when
	trying to allocate huge pages.  As previously mentioned, the code is
	looping for a long time in shrink_node().  The routine
	should_continue_reclaim() returns true perhaps more often than it should.

	As Vlastmil guessed, my debug code output below shows nr_scanned is remaining
	non-zero for quite a while.  This was on v5.2-rc6.
===
nr_scanned != 0 and the result of should_continue_reclaim() is not false, which
is unable to match the condition you easily hit.


> and the compaction check:
> sc->nr_reclaimed < pages_for_compaction &&
> 	inactive_lru_pages > pages_for_compaction
> 
> is true, so we return true before the below check of costly_fg_reclaim
> 
It is the price high order allocations pay: reclaiming enough pages for
compact to do its work. With plenty of inactive pages you got no pages
reclaimed and scanned. It is really hard to imagine. And costly_fg_reclaim
is not good for that imho.

> > @@ -2583,6 +2591,9 @@ static inline bool should_continue_reclaim(struct pglist_data *pgdat,
> >  			inactive_lru_pages > pages_for_compaction)
> >  		return true;
> > 
> > +	if (costly_fg_reclaim)
> > +		return false;
> > +
> >  	/* If compaction would go ahead or the allocation would succeed, stop */
> >  	for (z = 0; z <= sc->reclaim_idx; z++) {
> >  		struct zone *zone = &pgdat->node_zones[z];
> > --
> >
> 
> As Michal suggested, I'm going to do some testing to see what impact
> dropping the __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL flag for these huge page allocations
> will have on the number of pages allocated.
> --
> Mike Kravetz
> 


             reply	other threads:[~2019-07-11 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-11 15:44 Hillf Danton [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-07-12  5:47 [Question] Should direct reclaim time be bounded? Hillf Danton
2019-07-13  1:11 ` Mike Kravetz
2019-04-23  4:07 Mike Kravetz
2019-04-23  7:19 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-23 16:39   ` Mike Kravetz
2019-04-24 14:35     ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-06-28 18:20       ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-01  8:59         ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-02  3:15           ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-03  9:43             ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-03 23:54               ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-04 11:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-04 15:11                   ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-08  5:19             ` Hillf Danton
2019-07-10 18:42             ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-10 19:44               ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-10 23:36                 ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-11  7:12                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-12  9:49                     ` Mel Gorman

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