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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/filemap: don't initiate writeback if mapping has no dirty pages
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:48:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190730154854.GG28829@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51ba7304-06bd-a50d-cb14-6dc41b92fab5@yandex-team.ru>

On Tue 30-07-19 17:57:18, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> On 30.07.2019 17:14, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Tue 23-07-19 11:16:51, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> > > On 23.07.2019 3:52, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > (cc linux-fsdevel and Jan)
> > 
> > Thanks for CC Andrew.
> > 
> > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 12:36:08 +0300 Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Functions like filemap_write_and_wait_range() should do nothing if inode
> > > > > has no dirty pages or pages currently under writeback. But they anyway
> > > > > construct struct writeback_control and this does some atomic operations
> > > > > if CONFIG_CGROUP_WRITEBACK=y - on fast path it locks inode->i_lock and
> > > > > updates state of writeback ownership, on slow path might be more work.
> > > > > Current this path is safely avoided only when inode mapping has no pages.
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example generic_file_read_iter() calls filemap_write_and_wait_range()
> > > > > at each O_DIRECT read - pretty hot path.
> > 
> > Yes, but in common case mapping_needs_writeback() is false for files you do
> > direct IO to (exactly the case with no pages in the mapping). So you
> > shouldn't see the overhead at all. So which case you really care about?
> > 
> > > > > This patch skips starting new writeback if mapping has no dirty tags set.
> > > > > If writeback is already in progress filemap_write_and_wait_range() will
> > > > > wait for it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- a/mm/filemap.c
> > > > > +++ b/mm/filemap.c
> > > > > @@ -408,7 +408,8 @@ int __filemap_fdatawrite_range(struct address_space *mapping, loff_t start,
> > > > >    		.range_end = end,
> > > > >    	};
> > > > > -	if (!mapping_cap_writeback_dirty(mapping))
> > > > > +	if (!mapping_cap_writeback_dirty(mapping) ||
> > > > > +	    !mapping_tagged(mapping, PAGECACHE_TAG_DIRTY))
> > > > >    		return 0;
> > > > >    	wbc_attach_fdatawrite_inode(&wbc, mapping->host);
> > > > 
> > > > How does this play with tagged_writepages?  We assume that no tagging
> > > > has been performed by any __filemap_fdatawrite_range() caller?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Checking also PAGECACHE_TAG_TOWRITE is cheap but seems redundant.
> > > 
> > > To-write tags are supposed to be a subset of dirty tags:
> > > to-write is set only when dirty is set and cleared after starting writeback.
> > > 
> > > Special case set_page_writeback_keepwrite() which does not clear to-write
> > > should be for dirty page thus dirty tag is not going to be cleared either.
> > > Ext4 calls it after redirty_page_for_writepage()
> > > XFS even without clear_page_dirty_for_io()
> > > 
> > > Anyway to-write tag without dirty tag or at clear page is confusing.
> > 
> > Yeah, TOWRITE tag is intended to be internal to writepages logic so your
> > patch is fine in that regard. Overall the patch looks good to me so I'm
> > just wondering a bit about the motivation...
> 
> In our case file mixes cached pages and O_DIRECT read. Kind of database
> were index header is memory mapped while the rest data read via O_DIRECT.
> I suppose for sharing index between multiple instances.

OK, that has always been a bit problematic but you're not the first one to
have such design ;). So feel free to add:

Reviewed-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>

to your patch.

> On this path we also hit this bug:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/156355839560.2063.5265687291430814589.stgit@buzz/
> so that's why I've started looking into this code.

I see. OK.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-30 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-22  9:36 [PATCH 1/2] mm/filemap: don't initiate writeback if mapping has no dirty pages Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-07-22  9:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/filemap: rewrite mapping_needs_writeback in less fancy manner Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-07-23  0:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/filemap: don't initiate writeback if mapping has no dirty pages Andrew Morton
2019-07-23  8:16   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-07-30 14:14     ` Jan Kara
2019-07-30 14:57       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-07-30 15:48         ` Jan Kara [this message]
2019-07-30 18:15           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov

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