From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/26] xfs: Improve metadata buffer reclaim accountability
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 08:05:58 -0400
Message-ID: <20191012120558.GA3307@bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191011231323.GK16973@dread.disaster.area>
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:13:23AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 08:39:39AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 02:21:02PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > The buffer cache shrinker frees more than just the xfs_buf slab
> > > objects - it also frees the pages attached to the buffers. Make sure
> > > the memory reclaim code accounts for this memory being freed
> > > correctly, similar to how the inode shrinker accounts for pages
> > > freed from the page cache due to mapping invalidation.
> > >
> > > We also need to make sure that the mm subsystem knows these are
> > > reclaimable objects. We provide the memory reclaim subsystem with a
> > > a shrinker to reclaim xfs_bufs, so we should really mark the slab
> > > that way.
> > >
> > > We also have a lot of xfs_bufs in a busy system, spread them around
> > > like we do inodes.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> >
> > Seems reasonable, but for inodes we also spread the ili zone. Should we
> > not be consistent with bli's as well?
>
> bli's are reclaimed when the buffer is cleaned. ili's live for the
> live of the inode in cache. Hence bli's are short term allocations
> (much shorter than xfs_bufs they attach to) and are reclaimed much
> faster than inodes and their ilis. There's also a lot less blis than
> ili's, so the spread of their footprint across memory nodes doesn't
> matter that much. Local access for the memcpy during formatting is
> probably more important than spreading the memory usage of them
> these days, anyway.
>
Yes, the buffer/inode lifecycle difference is why why I presume bli
zones are not ZONE_RECLAIM like ili zones. This doesn't tell me anything
about why buffers should be spread around as such and buffer log items
not, though..
Brian
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
> --
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-09 3:20 [PATCH V2 00/26] mm, xfs: non-blocking inode reclaim Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:20 ` [PATCH 01/26] xfs: Lower CIL flush limit for large logs Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 12:39 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-30 17:08 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 02/26] xfs: Throttle commits on delayed background CIL push Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 12:38 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 03/26] xfs: don't allow log IO to be throttled Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 9:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-11 12:39 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-30 17:14 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 04/26] xfs: Improve metadata buffer reclaim accountability Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 12:39 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-11 12:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-11 23:14 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 23:13 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-12 12:05 ` Brian Foster [this message]
2019-10-13 3:14 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-14 13:05 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-30 17:25 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-30 21:43 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 3:06 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-31 20:50 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 21:05 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-31 21:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-03 21:26 ` Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 23:08 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 05/26] xfs: correctly acount for reclaimable slabs Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 12:39 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-30 17:16 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 06/26] xfs: synchronous AIL pushing Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 9:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-11 12:40 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-11 23:15 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 07/26] xfs: tail updates only need to occur when LSN changes Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 9:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-11 12:40 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 08/26] mm: directed shrinker work deferral Dave Chinner
2019-10-14 8:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-14 13:06 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-18 7:59 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 09/26] shrinkers: use defer_work for GFP_NOFS sensitive shrinkers Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 10/26] mm: factor shrinker work calculations Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 11/26] shrinker: defer work only to kswapd Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 12/26] shrinker: clean up variable types and tracepoints Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 13/26] mm: reclaim_state records pages reclaimed, not slabs Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 14/26] mm: back off direct reclaim on excessive shrinker deferral Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 16:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-10-11 23:20 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 15/26] mm: kswapd backoff for shrinkers Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 16/26] xfs: synchronous AIL pushing Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 10:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-11 15:29 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-11 23:27 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-12 12:08 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 17/26] xfs: don't block kswapd in inode reclaim Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 15:29 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 18/26] xfs: reduce kswapd blocking on inode locking Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 10:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 19/26] xfs: kill background reclaim work Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 10:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 20/26] xfs: use AIL pushing for inode reclaim IO Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 17:38 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 21/26] xfs: remove mode from xfs_reclaim_inodes() Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 10:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-14 13:07 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 22/26] xfs: track reclaimable inodes using a LRU list Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 10:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-14 13:07 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 23/26] xfs: reclaim inodes from the LRU Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 10:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-30 23:25 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 24/26] xfs: remove unusued old inode reclaim code Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 25/26] xfs: rework unreferenced inode lookups Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 12:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-11 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 23:38 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-14 13:07 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-17 1:24 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-17 7:57 ` Brian Foster
2019-10-18 20:29 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 26/26] xfs: use xfs_ail_push_all_sync in xfs_reclaim_inodes Dave Chinner
2019-10-11 9:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-09 7:06 ` [PATCH V2 00/26] mm, xfs: non-blocking inode reclaim Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-11 19:03 ` Josef Bacik
2019-10-11 23:48 ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-12 0:19 ` Josef Bacik
2019-10-12 0:48 ` Dave Chinner
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