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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 10/16] mm,hwpoison: Rework soft offline for free pages
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:22:56 +0200
Message-ID: <20191022092256.GH9379@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191022083505.GA19708@linux>

On Tue 22-10-19 10:35:17, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:26:11AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 22-10-19 09:46:20, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> > [...]
> > > So, opposite to hard-offline, in soft-offline we do not fiddle with pages
> > > unless we are sure the page is not reachable anymore by any means.
> > 
> > I have to say I do not follow. Is there any _real_ reason for
> > soft-offline to behave differenttly from MCE (hard-offline)?
> 
> Yes.
> Do not take it as 100% true as I read that in some code/Documentation
> a while ago.
> 
> But I think that it boils down to:
> 
> soft-offline: "We have seen some erros in the underlying page, but
>                it is still usable, so we have a chance to keep the
>                the contents (via migration)"
> hard-offline: "The underlying page is dead, we cannot trust it, so
>                we shut it down, killing whoever is holding it
>                along the way".

Hmm, that might be a misunderstanding on my end. I thought that it is
the MCE handler to say whether the failure is recoverable or not. If yes
then we can touch the content of the memory (that would imply the
migration). Other than that both paths should be essentially the same,
no? Well unrecoverable case would be essentially force migration failure
path.

MADV_HWPOISON is explicitly documented to test MCE handling IIUC:
: This feature is intended for testing of memory error-handling
: code; it is available only if the kernel was configured with
: CONFIG_MEMORY_FAILURE.

There is no explicit note about the type of the error that is injected
but I think it is reasonably safe to assume this is a recoverable one.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-17 14:21 [RFC PATCH v2 00/16] Hwpoison rework {hard,soft}-offline Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/16] mm,hwpoison: cleanup unused PageHuge() check Oscar Salvador
2019-10-18 11:48   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-21  7:00     ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-21 12:16       ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-12 12:22       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2019-11-13  6:02         ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/16] mm,madvise: call soft_offline_page() without MF_COUNT_INCREASED Oscar Salvador
2019-10-18 11:52   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-21  7:02     ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-21 12:20       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/16] mm,madvise: Refactor madvise_inject_error Oscar Salvador
2019-10-21  7:03   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/16] mm,hwpoison-inject: don't pin for hwpoison_filter Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/16] mm,hwpoison: Un-export get_hwpoison_page and make it static Oscar Salvador
2019-10-21  7:03   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/16] mm,hwpoison: Kill put_hwpoison_page Oscar Salvador
2019-10-21  7:04   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/16] mm,hwpoison: remove MF_COUNT_INCREASED Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/16] mm,hwpoison: remove flag argument from soft offline functions Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/16] mm,hwpoison: Unify THP handling for hard and soft offline Oscar Salvador
2019-10-21  7:04   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-21  9:51     ` [PATCH 17/16] mm,hwpoison: introduce MF_MSG_UNSPLIT_THP Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-22  8:00       ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/16] mm,hwpoison: Rework soft offline for free pages Oscar Salvador
2019-10-18 12:06   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-21 12:58     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-21 15:41       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22  7:46         ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-22  8:26           ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22  8:35             ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-22  9:22               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-10-22  9:58                 ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-22 10:24                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 10:33                     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-23  2:15                       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-23  2:01                   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-21  7:45   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-22  8:00     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/16] mm,hwpoison: Rework soft offline for in-use pages Oscar Salvador
2019-10-18 12:39   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-21 13:48     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-21 14:06       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22  7:56         ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-22  8:30           ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22  9:40             ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/16] mm,hwpoison: Refactor soft_offline_huge_page and __soft_offline_page Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/16] mm,hwpoison: Take pages off the buddy when hard-offlining Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/16] mm,hwpoison: Return 0 if the page is already poisoned in soft-offline Oscar Salvador
2019-10-21  9:20   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/16] mm/hwpoison-inject: Rip off duplicated checks Oscar Salvador
2019-10-21  9:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-10-22  7:57     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-10-17 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/16] mm, soft-offline: convert parameter to pfn Oscar Salvador
2019-10-18  8:15   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-11 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/16] Hwpoison rework {hard,soft}-offline Dmitry Yakunin
2020-06-15  6:19   ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)

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