From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 13:20:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200211182054.GA178155@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200211175507.178100-1-hannes@cmpxchg.org>
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 12:55:07PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> However, this change had to be reverted in 69056ee6a8a3 ("Revert "mm:
> don't reclaim inodes with many attached pages"") because it caused
> severe reclaim performance problems: Inodes that sit on the shrinker
> LRU are attracting reclaim pressure away from the page cache and
> toward the VFS. If we then permanently exempt sizable portions of this
> pool from actually getting reclaimed when looked at, this pressure
> accumulates as deferred shrinker work (a mechanism for *temporarily*
> unreclaimable objects) until it causes mayhem in the VFS cache pools.
>
> In the bug quoted in 69056ee6a8a3 in particular, the excessive
> pressure drove the XFS shrinker into dirty objects, where it caused
> synchronous, IO-bound stalls, even as there was plenty of clean page
> cache that should have been reclaimed instead.
A note on testing: the patch behaves much better on my machine and the
inode shrinker doesn't drop hot page cache anymore, without noticable
downsides so far.
However, I tried to reproduce the xfs case that caused the
69056ee6a8a3 revert and haven't managed to do so yet on 5.5 plus the
reverted patch. I cannot provoke higher inode sync stalls in the xfs
shrinker regardless of shrinker strategy. Maybe something else changed
since 4.19 and it's less of a concern now.
Nonetheless, I'm interested in opinions on the premise of this
patch. And Yafang is working on his memcg-specific fix for this issue,
so I wanted to put this proposal on the table sooner than later.
Thanks
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-11 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-11 17:55 [PATCH] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU Johannes Weiner
2020-02-11 18:20 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2020-02-11 19:05 ` Rik van Riel
2020-02-11 19:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-11 23:44 ` Andrew Morton
2020-02-12 0:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-12 0:47 ` Andrew Morton
2020-02-12 1:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-12 8:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-02-13 9:50 ` Lucas Stach
2020-02-13 16:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-15 11:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-15 16:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-16 9:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-16 19:54 ` Chris Paterson
2020-02-16 20:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-20 14:35 ` Chris Paterson
2020-02-26 18:04 ` santosh.shilimkar
2020-02-26 21:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-26 21:11 ` santosh.shilimkar
2020-03-06 20:34 ` Nishanth Menon
2020-03-07 1:08 ` santosh.shilimkar
2020-03-08 10:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-08 14:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-09 13:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-09 14:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-09 15:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-10 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-09 15:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2020-03-09 16:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-09 16:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2020-03-09 19:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-11 14:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2020-03-11 16:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-11 17:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2020-03-11 22:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-12 3:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-12 8:09 ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-17 13:31 ` Pavel Machek
2020-02-12 16:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-12 18:26 ` Andrew Morton
2020-02-12 18:52 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-12 12:25 ` Yafang Shao
2020-02-12 16:42 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-13 1:47 ` Yafang Shao
2020-02-13 13:46 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-14 2:02 ` Yafang Shao
2020-02-13 18:34 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Weiner
2020-02-14 16:53 ` [PATCH] " kbuild test robot
2020-02-14 21:30 ` kbuild test robot
2020-02-14 21:30 ` [PATCH] vfs: fix boolreturn.cocci warnings kbuild test robot
2020-05-12 21:29 ` [PATCH] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU Johannes Weiner
2020-05-13 1:32 ` Yafang Shao
2020-05-13 13:00 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-13 21:15 ` Andrew Morton
2020-05-14 11:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-14 2:24 ` Andrew Morton
2020-05-14 10:37 ` Johannes Weiner
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