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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] mm: memcontrol: recursive memory.low protection
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:41:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200217084100.GE31531@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200214165311.GA253674@cmpxchg.org>

On Fri 14-02-20 11:53:11, Johannes Weiner wrote:
[...]
> The proper solution to implement the kind of resource hierarchy you
> want to express in cgroup2 is to reflect it in the cgroup tree. Yes,
> the_workload might have been started by user 100 in session c2, but in
> terms of resources, it's prioritized over system.slice and user.slice,
> and so that's the level where it needs to sit:
> 
>                                root
>                        /        |                 \
>                system.slice  user.slice       the_workload
>                /    |           |
>            cron  journal     user-100.slice
>                                 |
>                              session-c2.scope
>                                 |
>                              misc
> 
> Then you can configure not just memory.low, but also a proper io
> weight and a cpu weight. And the tree correctly reflects where the
> workload is in the pecking order of who gets access to resources.

I have already mentioned that this would be the only solution when the
protection would work, right. But I am also saying that this a trivial
example where you simply _can_ move your workload to the 1st level. What
about those that need to reflect organization into the hierarchy. Please
have a look at http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200214075916.GM31689@dhcp22.suse.cz
Are you saying they are just not supported? Are they supposed to use
cgroup v1 for the organization and v2 for the resource control?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-17  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-19 20:07 [PATCH v2 0/3] mm: memcontrol: recursive memory protection Johannes Weiner
2019-12-19 20:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: memcontrol: fix memory.low proportional distribution Johannes Weiner
2020-01-30 11:49   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-03 21:21     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-03 21:38       ` Roman Gushchin
2019-12-19 20:07 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm: memcontrol: clean up and document effective low/min calculations Johannes Weiner
2020-01-30 12:54   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-21 17:10   ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-25 18:40     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-26 16:46       ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-26 19:40         ` Johannes Weiner
2019-12-19 20:07 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm: memcontrol: recursive memory.low protection Johannes Weiner
2020-01-30 17:00   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-03 21:52     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-10 15:21       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-11 16:47       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-12 17:08         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-13  7:40           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 13:23             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-13 15:46               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 17:41                 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-13 17:58                   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-14  7:59                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 13:53             ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-13 15:47               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 15:52                 ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-13 16:36                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 16:57                     ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-14  7:15                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-14 13:57                         ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-14 15:13                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-14 15:40                             ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-14 16:53                             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-14 17:17                               ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-17  8:41                               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-02-18 19:52                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-21 10:11                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-21 15:43                                     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-25 12:20                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-25 18:17                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-26 17:56                                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-21 17:12   ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-21 18:58     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-25 13:37       ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-25 15:03         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-26 13:22           ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-26 15:05             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-27 13:35               ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-27 15:06                 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-12-19 20:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] mm: memcontrol: recursive memory protection Tejun Heo
2019-12-20  4:06 ` Roman Gushchin
2019-12-20  4:29 ` Chris Down

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