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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 12/13] mm/vmscan: Export drop_slab() and drop_slab_node()
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 15:58:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200225145829.GW22443@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191212171137.13872-13-david@redhat.com>

On Thu 12-12-19 18:11:36, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> We already have a way to trigger reclaiming of all reclaimable slab objects
> from user space (echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches). Let's allow drivers
> to also trigger this when they really want to make progress and know what
> they are doing.

I cannot say I would be fan of this. This is a global action with user
visible performance impact. I am worried that we will find out that all
sorts of drivers have a very good idea that dropping slab caches is
going to help their problem whatever it is. We have seen the same patter
in the userspace already and that is the reason we are logging the usage
to the log and count invocations in the counter.

> virtio-mem wants to use these functions when it failed to unplug memory
> for quite some time (e.g., after 30 minutes). It will then try to
> free up reclaimable objects by dropping the slab caches every now and
> then (e.g., every 30 minutes) as long as necessary. There will be a way to
> disable this feature and info messages will be logged.
> 
> In the future, we want to have a drop_slab_range() functionality
> instead. Memory offlining code has similar demands and also other
> alloc_contig_range() users (e.g., gigantic pages) could make good use of
> this feature. Adding it, however, requires more work/thought.

We already do have a memory_notify(MEM_GOING_OFFLINE) for that purpose
and slab allocator implements a callback (slab_mem_going_offline_callback).
The callback is quite dumb and it doesn't really try to free objects
from the given memory range or even try to drop active objects which
might turn out to be hard but this sounds like a more robust way to
achieve what you want.
 
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> ---
>  include/linux/mm.h | 4 ++--
>  mm/vmscan.c        | 2 ++
>  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 64799c5cb39f..483300f58be8 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -2706,8 +2706,8 @@ int drop_caches_sysctl_handler(struct ctl_table *, int,
>  					void __user *, size_t *, loff_t *);
>  #endif
>  
> -void drop_slab(void);
> -void drop_slab_node(int nid);
> +extern void drop_slab(void);
> +extern void drop_slab_node(int nid);
>  
>  #ifndef CONFIG_MMU
>  #define randomize_va_space 0
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index c3e53502a84a..4e1cdaaec5e6 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -719,6 +719,7 @@ void drop_slab_node(int nid)
>  		} while ((memcg = mem_cgroup_iter(NULL, memcg, NULL)) != NULL);
>  	} while (freed > 10);
>  }
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(drop_slab_node);
>  
>  void drop_slab(void)
>  {
> @@ -728,6 +729,7 @@ void drop_slab(void)
>  		drop_slab_node(nid);
>  	count_vm_event(DROP_SLAB);
>  }
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(drop_slab);
>  
>  static inline int is_page_cache_freeable(struct page *page)
>  {
> -- 
> 2.23.0

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-25 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-12 17:11 [PATCH RFC v4 00/13] virtio-mem: paravirtualized memory David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 01/13] ACPI: NUMA: export pxm_to_node David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 21:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-13  9:41     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-12-13  9:47       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 02/13] virtio-mem: Paravirtualized memory hotplug David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 03/13] virtio-mem: Paravirtualized memory hotunplug part 1 David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 04/13] mm: Export alloc_contig_range() / free_contig_range() David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 05/13] virtio-mem: Paravirtualized memory hotunplug part 2 David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 06/13] mm: Allow to offline unmovable PageOffline() pages via MEM_GOING_OFFLINE David Hildenbrand
2020-02-25 18:26   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-02-25 18:49     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-25 21:46       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-02-25 22:19         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-26 16:27           ` Alexander Duyck
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 07/13] virtio-mem: Allow to offline partially unplugged memory blocks David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 08/13] mm/memory_hotplug: Introduce offline_and_remove_memory() David Hildenbrand
2020-02-25 14:11   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-25 14:27     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-03-02 12:48       ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-02 12:53         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 09/13] virtio-mem: Offline and remove completely unplugged memory blocks David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 10/13] virtio-mem: Better retry handling David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 11/13] mm/vmscan: Move count_vm_event(DROP_SLAB) into drop_slab() David Hildenbrand
2020-02-25 14:13   ` Michal Hocko
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 12/13] mm/vmscan: Export drop_slab() and drop_slab_node() David Hildenbrand
2020-02-25 14:58   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-02-25 15:09     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-25 17:06       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-25 17:23         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-12-12 17:11 ` [PATCH RFC v4 13/13] virtio-mem: Drop slab objects when unplug continues to fail David Hildenbrand
2019-12-13 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC v4 00/13] virtio-mem: paravirtualized memory Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-12-16 11:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-12-24  6:58 ` teawater
2019-12-24  9:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-09 13:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-29  9:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-25  9:58     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-05  8:55   ` Alex Shi
2020-06-05  9:08     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-05  9:36       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-05 10:05         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-05 10:46           ` Alex Shi
2020-06-05 12:18             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-09  3:05               ` Alex Shi
2020-06-05 10:08         ` Alex Shi
2020-06-05 10:06       ` Alex Shi

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