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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Domenico Andreoli <domenico.andreoli.it@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Domenico Andreoli <domenico.andreoli@linux.com>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, mkleinsoft@gmail.com,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hibernate: unlock swap bdev for writing when uswsusp is active
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 17:18:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200304011840.GD1752567@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9E4A0457-39B1-45E2-AEA2-22C730BF2C4F@gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 10:51:22PM +0000, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> 
> 
> On March 3, 2020 7:02:12 PM UTC, "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com> wrote:
> >On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 10:35:36PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 9:02 PM Domenico Andreoli
> >> <domenico.andreoli@linux.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 10:38:20AM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> >> > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 07:07:16PM +0100, Domenico Andreoli
> >wrote:
> >> > > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 09:08:25AM -0800, Darrick J. Wong
> >wrote:
> >> > > > > From: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > It turns out that there /is/ one use case for programs being
> >able to
> >> > > > > write to swap devices, and that is the userspace hibernation
> >code.  The
> >> > > > > uswsusp ioctls allow userspace to lease parts of swap
> >devices, so turn
> >> > > > > S_SWAPFILE off when invoking suspend.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Fixes: 1638045c3677 ("mm: set S_SWAPFILE on blockdev swap
> >devices")
> >> > > > > Reported-by: Domenico Andreoli <domenico.andreoli@linux.com>
> >> > > > > Reported-by: Marian Klein <mkleinsoft@gmail.com>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I also tested it yesterday but was not satisfied, unfortunately
> >I did
> >> > > > not come with my comment in time.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yes, I confirm that the uswsusp works again but also checked
> >that
> >> > > > swap_relockall() is not triggered at all and therefore after
> >the first
> >> > > > hibernation cycle the S_SWAPFILE bit remains cleared and the
> >whole
> >> > > > swap_relockall() is useless.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm not sure this patch should be merged in the current form.
> >> > >
> >> > > NNGGHHGGHGH /me is rapidly losing his sanity and will soon just
> >revert
> >> > > the whole security feature because I'm getting fed up with people
> >> > > yelling at me *while I'm on vacation* trying to *restore* my
> >sanity.  I
> >> > > really don't want to be QAing userspace-directed hibernation
> >right now.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe we could proceed with the first patch to amend the regression
> >and
> >> > postpone the improved fix to a later patch? Don't loose sanity for
> >this.
> >> 
> >> I would concur here.
> >> 
> >> > > ...right, the patch is broken because we have to relock the
> >swapfiles in
> >> > > whatever code executes after we jump back to the restored kernel,
> >not in
> >> > > the one that's doing the restoring.  Does this help?
> >> >
> >> > I made a few unsuccessful attempts in kernel/power/hibernate.c and
> >> > eventually I'm switching to qemu to speed up the test cycle.
> >> >
> >> > > OTOH, maybe we should just leave the swapfiles unlocked after
> >resume.
> >> > > Userspace has clearly demonstrated the one usecase for writing to
> >the
> >> > > swapfile, which means anyone could have jumped in while uswsusp
> >was
> >> > > running and written whatever crap they wanted to the parts of the
> >swap
> >> > > file that weren't leased for the hibernate image.
> >> >
> >> > Essentially, if the hibernation is supported the swapfile is not
> >totally
> >> > safe.
> >> 
> >> But that's only the case with the userspace variant, isn't it?
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >> > Maybe user-space hibernation should be a separate option.
> >> 
> >> That actually is not a bad idea at all in my view.
> >
> >The trouble with kconfig options is that the distros will be pressued
> >into setting CONFIG_HIBERNATE_USERSPACE=y to avoid regressing their
> >uswsusp users, which makes the added security code pointless.  As this
> 
> True but there are not only distros otherwise the kernel would not
> have any option at all.
> 
> It's actually very nice that if hibernation is disabled no userspace
> is ever allowed to write to the swap.
> 
> >has clearly sucked me into a conflict that I don't have the resources
> >to
> >pursue, I'm going to revert the write patch checks and move on with
> >life.
> 
> I don't see the need of reverting anything, I can deal with these
> issues if you are busy on something else.

If you want to work on the patch, please do!  Starting from the revert
patch I sent earlier, I /think/ only the first chunk (the one that
touches blkdev_write_iter) of that patch actually has to be applied to
re-enable uswsusp.  That could probably be turned into:

	if (IS_SWAPFILE(...) && !IS_ENABLED(HIBERNATION))
		return -ETXTBSY;

Though perhaps a better thing to check here rather than the Kconfig
option is whether or not the system is locked out against hibernation?
e.g.,

	if (IS_SWAPFILE(...) && !hibernation_available())
		return -EXTBSY;

--D

> >
> >--D
> >
> >> Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-04  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-29 17:08 [PATCH] hibernate: unlock swap bdev for writing when uswsusp is active Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-29 18:07 ` Domenico Andreoli
2020-02-29 18:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-29 20:02     ` Domenico Andreoli
2020-03-01 21:35       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-03-02  4:51         ` Marian Klein
2020-03-03 19:02         ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-03-03 22:51           ` Domenico Andreoli
2020-03-04  1:18             ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2020-03-04  8:23               ` [PATCH] hibernate: Allow uswsusp to write to swap Domenico Andreoli
2020-03-04 15:45                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-03-04 16:31                   ` Domenico Andreoli
2020-03-04  8:34               ` [PATCH] hibernate: unlock swap bdev for writing when uswsusp is active Domenico Andreoli
2020-04-20 18:52         ` Domenico Andreoli
2020-04-21 15:43           ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-04-21 18:39             ` Domenico Andreoli

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