From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71AAC10DCE for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 18:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9361320665 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 18:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="GZhjSqMZ" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 9361320665 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 3F2AB6B0003; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 3A30A6B0006; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:23:07 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 293176B0007; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:23:07 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0025.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.25]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138DB6B0003 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpin20.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C183E180AD804 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 18:23:06 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 76565759172.20.hope28_8f89f7a3e3641 X-HE-Tag: hope28_8f89f7a3e3641 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 3164 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) by imf09.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 18:23:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=gjcMLMQ0YOmlfbrWMSlcaCd1DZoiex3FbrOJcHyyxFE=; b=GZhjSqMZZbIrSju7YQjqH/WhZm VNdNpiUI3aY1YMngp/GkjF3q/4JSWbSwPfYhM7w5xDJKukla5piaxuN3Vw+1eUmRIkX68u/Ysheeg ZA9uO3/uX5q44bUuRFBgZf7HqS0095BER+6kl0UKKi4QqQOolS+ZWBZbSWGxiOMREnJc1NYvTKvPt nBrgkidp4c8E44KhUubrZezkZQqMXP+SDyouW2IEbeeW/B905Nb69tmfDpoD0lntnEZF2RrN16HDQ YPln1saxQNZl9+MJGD7p8pPYedZlPHER3FqG81dcHs8Sj18KhuO5WHHBvI2MXPHvMYaWjaVPIII32 z1Q4TCmA==; Received: from willy by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jAHck-0001KR-GL; Fri, 06 Mar 2020 18:23:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 10:23:02 -0800 From: Matthew Wilcox To: James Bottomley Cc: Josef Bacik , lsf-pc , Linux FS Devel , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Btrfs BTRFS , bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF Message-ID: <20200306182302.GA31215@bombadil.infradead.org> References: <20200306160548.GB25710@bombadil.infradead.org> <1583516279.3653.71.camel@HansenPartnership.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1583516279.3653.71.camel@HansenPartnership.com> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.014685, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 09:37:59AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > Can I just inject a dose of reality here: The most costly thing is > Venue rental (which comes with a F&B minimum) and the continuous Tea > and Coffee. Last year for Plumbers, the venue cost us $37k and the > breaks $132k (including a lunch buffet, which was a requirement of the > venue rental). Given we had 500 attendees, that, alone is $340 per > head already. Now we could cut out the continuous tea and coffee ... > and the espresso machines you all raved about last year cost us about > $7 per shot. But it's not just this, it's also AV (microphones and > projectors) and recording, and fast internet access. That all came to > about $100k last year (or an extra $200 per head). So you can see, > running at the level Plumbers does you're already looking at $540 a > head, which, co-incidentally is close to our attendee fee. To get to > $300 per head, you lot will have to give up something in addition to > the espresso machines, what is it to be? I was basing that on https://www.bsdcan.org/2020/registration.php which is a ~200 person conference, charging $200 for 2 days. They provide morning & afternoon snacks as well as lunch and coffee.