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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Anton Blanchard <anton@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 7/7] lazy tlb: shoot lazies, a non-refcounting lazy tlb option
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:35:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200710093556.GY4800@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200710015646.2020871-8-npiggin@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:56:46AM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> On big systems, the mm refcount can become highly contented when doing
> a lot of context switching with threaded applications (particularly
> switching between the idle thread and an application thread).
> 
> Abandoning lazy tlb slows switching down quite a bit in the important
> user->idle->user cases, so so instead implement a non-refcounted scheme
> that causes __mmdrop() to IPI all CPUs in the mm_cpumask and shoot down
> any remaining lazy ones.
> 
> On a 16-socket 192-core POWER8 system, a context switching benchmark
> with as many software threads as CPUs (so each switch will go in and
> out of idle), upstream can achieve a rate of about 1 million context
> switches per second. After this patch it goes up to 118 million.

That's mighty impressive, however:

> +static void shoot_lazy_tlbs(struct mm_struct *mm)
> +{
> +	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MMU_LAZY_TLB_SHOOTDOWN)) {
> +		smp_call_function_many(mm_cpumask(mm), do_shoot_lazy_tlb, (void *)mm, 1);
> +		do_shoot_lazy_tlb(mm);
> +	}
> +}

IIRC you (power) never clear a CPU from that mask, so for other
workloads I can see this resulting in massive amounts of IPIs.

For instance, take as many processes as you have CPUs. For each,
manually walk the task across all CPUs and exit. Again.

Clearly, that's an extreme, but still...




  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-10  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-10  1:56 [RFC PATCH 0/7] mmu context cleanup, lazy tlb cleanup, Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-10  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] asm-generic: add generic MMU versions of mmu context functions Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-10  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] arch: use asm-generic mmu context for no-op implementations Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-10  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] mm: introduce exit_lazy_tlb Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-10  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] x86: use exit_lazy_tlb rather than membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-10  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-10 14:02   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-10 17:04   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-13  4:45     ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-13 13:47       ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-13 14:13         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-13 15:48           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-13 16:37             ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-16  4:15           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-16  4:42             ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-16 15:46               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-16 16:03                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-16 18:58                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-16 21:24                     ` Alan Stern
2020-07-17 13:39                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-17 14:51                         ` Alan Stern
2020-07-17 15:39                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-17 16:11                             ` Alan Stern
2020-07-17 16:22                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-17 17:44                                 ` Alan Stern
2020-07-17 17:52                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-17  0:00                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-16  5:18             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-16  6:06               ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-16  8:50               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-16 10:03                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-16 11:00                   ` peterz
2020-07-16 15:34                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-16 23:26                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-17 13:42                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-20  3:03                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-20 16:46                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-21 10:04                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-21 13:11                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-21 14:30                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-21 15:06                               ` peterz
2020-07-21 15:15                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-21 15:19                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-21 15:22                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-10  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] lazy tlb: introduce lazy mm refcount helper functions Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-10  9:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-10  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] lazy tlb: allow lazy tlb mm switching to be configurable Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-10  1:56 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] lazy tlb: shoot lazies, a non-refcounting lazy tlb option Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-10  9:35   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-07-13  4:58     ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-13 15:59   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-13 16:48     ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-13 18:18       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-14  5:04         ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-14  6:31           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-14 12:46             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-14 13:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-16  2:26               ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-16  2:35               ` Nicholas Piggin

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