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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] memcg, oom: check memcg margin for parallel oom
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:11:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200716061156.GB31089@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b74ac098-6cb5-8770-d6df-1bbb18332c4c@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

On Thu 16-07-20 14:54:01, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2020/07/16 2:30, David Rientjes wrote:
> > But regardless of whether we present previous data to the user in the 
> > kernel log or not, we've determined that oom killing a process is a 
> > serious matter and go to any lengths possible to avoid having to do it.  
> > For us, that means waiting until the "point of no return" to either go 
> > ahead with oom killing a process or aborting and retrying the charge.
> > 
> > I don't think moving the mem_cgroup_margin() check to out_of_memory() 
> > right before printing the oom info and killing the process is a very 
> > invasive patch.  Any strong preference against doing it that way?  I think 
> > moving the check as late as possible to save a process from being killed 
> > when racing with an exiter or killed process (including perhaps current) 
> > has a pretty clear motivation.
> > 
> 
> How about ignoring MMF_OOM_SKIP for once? I think this has almost same
> effect as moving the mem_cgroup_margin() check to out_of_memory() 
> right before printing the oom info and killing the process.

How would that help with races when a task is exiting while the oom
selects a victim? We are not talking about races with the oom_reaper
IIUC. Btw. if races with the oom_reaper are a concern then I would much
rather delay the wake up than complicate the existing protocol even
further.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-16  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-14 13:57 [PATCH v2] memcg, oom: check memcg margin for parallel oom Yafang Shao
2020-07-14 14:05 ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-14 14:30 ` Chris Down
2020-07-14 18:46 ` David Rientjes
2020-07-15  1:44   ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-15  2:44     ` David Rientjes
2020-07-15  3:10       ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-15  3:18         ` David Rientjes
2020-07-15  3:31           ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-15 17:30             ` David Rientjes
2020-07-16  2:38               ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-16  7:04                 ` David Rientjes
2020-07-16 11:53                   ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-16 12:21                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-16 13:09                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-07-16 19:53                     ` David Rientjes
2020-07-17  1:35                       ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-17 19:26                         ` David Rientjes
2020-07-18  2:15                           ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-16  5:54               ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-07-16  6:11                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-07-16  7:06                   ` David Rientjes
2020-07-16  6:08               ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-16  6:56                 ` David Rientjes
2020-07-16  7:12                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-16 20:04                     ` David Rientjes
2020-07-28 18:04                   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-07-15  6:56         ` Michal Hocko

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