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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Anchal Agarwal <anchalag@amazon.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] xen/manage: keep track of the on-going suspend mode
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 10:27:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200722082746.GS7191@Air-de-Roger> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200721195509.GA14682@dev-dsk-anchalag-2a-9c2d1d96.us-west-2.amazon.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 07:55:09PM +0000, Anchal Agarwal wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:30:18AM +0200, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Marek: I'm adding you in case you could be able to give this a try and
> > make sure it doesn't break suspend for dom0.
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:17:36AM +0000, Anchal Agarwal wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:37:05AM +0200, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 09:47:04PM -0400, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> > > > > (Roger, question for you at the very end)
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/17/20 3:10 PM, Anchal Agarwal wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 05:18:08PM -0400, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> > > > > >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 7/15/20 4:49 PM, Anchal Agarwal wrote:
> > > > > >>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:52:01AM -0400, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> > > > > >>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On 7/2/20 2:21 PM, Anchal Agarwal wrote:
> > > > > >>>> And PVH dom0.
> > > > > >>> That's another good use case to make it work with however, I still
> > > > > >>> think that should be tested/worked upon separately as the feature itself
> > > > > >>> (PVH Dom0) is very new.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Same question here --- will this break PVH dom0?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > > I haven't tested it as a part of this series. Is that a blocker here?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I suspect dom0 will not do well now as far as hibernation goes, in which
> > > > > case you are not breaking anything.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger?
> > > >
> > > > I sadly don't have any box ATM that supports hibernation where I
> > > > could test it. We have hibernation support for PV dom0, so while I
> > > > haven't done anything specific to support or test hibernation on PVH
> > > > dom0 I would at least aim to not make this any worse, and hence the
> > > > check should at least also fail for a PVH dom0?
> > > >
> > > > if (!xen_hvm_domain() || xen_initial_domain())
> > > >     return -ENODEV;
> > > >
> > > > Ie: none of this should be applied to a PVH dom0, as it doesn't have
> > > > PV devices and hence should follow the bare metal device suspend.
> > > >
> > > So from what I understand you meant for any guest running on pvh dom0 should not
> > > hibernate if hibernation is triggered from within the guest or should they?
> > 
> > Er no to both I think. What I meant is that a PVH dom0 should be able
> > to properly suspend, and we should make sure this work doesn't make
> > this any harder (or breaks it if it's currently working).
> > 
> > Or at least that's how I understood the question raised by Boris.
> > 
> > You are adding code to the generic suspend path that's also used by dom0
> > in order to perform bare metal suspension. This is fine now for a PV
> > dom0 because the code is gated on xen_hvm_domain, but you should also
> > take into account that a PVH dom0 is considered a HVM domain, and
> > hence will get the notifier registered.
> >
> Ok that makes sense now. This is good to be safe, but my patch series is only to
> support domU hibernation, so I am not sure if this will affect pvh dom0.
> However, since I do not have a good way of testing sure I will add the check.
> 
> Moreover, in Patch-0004, I do register suspend/resume syscore_ops specifically for domU
> hibernation only if its xen_hvm_domain.

So if the hooks are only registered for domU, do you still need this
xen_hvm_domain check here?

I have to admit I'm not familiar with Linux PM suspend.

> I don't see any reason that should not
> be registered for domU's running on pvh dom0.

To be clear: it should be registered for all HVM domUs, regardless of
whether they are running on a PV or a PVH dom0. My intention was never
to suggest otherwise. It should be enabled for all HVM domUs, but
shouldn't be enabled for HVM dom0.

> Those suspend/resume callbacks will
> only be invoked in case hibernation and will be skipped if generic suspend path
> is in progress. Do you see any issue with that?

No, I think it's fine.

Roger.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-22  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-02 18:21 [PATCH v2 00/11] Fix PM hibernation in Xen guests Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:21 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] xen/manage: keep track of the on-going suspend mode Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-13 15:52   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-15 20:49     ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-15 21:18       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-17 19:10         ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-19  1:47           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-20  9:37             ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-21  0:17               ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-21  8:30                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-21 19:55                   ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-22  8:27                     ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2020-07-21  0:03             ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-21 21:48               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-22  0:18                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-07-22 18:02                   ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-22 22:45                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-22 23:49                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-07-23 22:57                       ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-24 23:01                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-07-27 22:08                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-30 23:06                             ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-31 14:13                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-31 14:25                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-08-04 23:42                                 ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-08-05 13:31                                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-08-05 17:42                                     ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:21 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] x86/xen: Introduce new function to map HYPERVISOR_shared_info on Resume Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] x86/xen: add system core suspend and resume callbacks Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-05 17:22   ` kernel test robot
2020-07-22  9:08   ` Julien Grall
2020-07-02 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] genirq: Shutdown irq chips in suspend/resume during hibernation Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] xen-blkfront: add callbacks for PM suspend and hibernation Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] xen-netfront: " Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] x86/xen: save and restore steal clock during PM hibernation Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:23 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] xen: Introduce wrapper for save/restore sched clock offset Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:23 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] xen: Update sched clock offset to avoid system instability in hibernation Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:23 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] PM / hibernate: update the resume offset on SNAPSHOT_SET_SWAP_AREA Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-02 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] xenbus: add freeze/thaw/restore callbacks support Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-10 18:17 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Fix PM hibernation in Xen guests Agarwal, Anchal
2020-07-13 19:43   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-15 19:49     ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-07-15 20:49       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-07-16 23:28         ` Anchal Agarwal

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