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McKenney" To: peterz@infradead.org Cc: Thomas Gleixner , Michal Hocko , Uladzislau Rezki , LKML , RCU , linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton , Vlastimil Babka , Matthew Wilcox , "Theodore Y . Ts'o" , Joel Fernandes , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , Oleksiy Avramchenko Subject: Re: [RFC-PATCH 1/2] mm: Add __GFP_NO_LOCKS flag Message-ID: <20200813232311.GJ4295@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org References: <20200811210931.GZ4295@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <874kp87mca.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <20200813075027.GD9477@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200813095840.GA25268@pc636> <874kp6llzb.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <20200813133308.GK9477@dhcp22.suse.cz> <87sgcqty0e.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <20200813182618.GX2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200813185257.GF4295@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200813220619.GA2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200813220619.GA2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7D1FE180F8B81 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 100.00] X-Rspamd-Server: rspam03 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:06:19AM +0200, peterz@infradead.org wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:52:57AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 08:26:18PM +0200, peterz@infradead.org wrote: > > > > I thought the rule was: > > > > > > - No allocators (alloc/free) inside raw_spinlock_t, full-stop. > > > > > > Why are we trying to craft an exception? > > > > So that we can reduce post-grace-period cache misses by a factor of > > eight when invoking RCU callbacks. This reduction in cache misses also > > makes it more difficult to overrun RCU with floods of either call_rcu() > > or kfree_rcu() invocations. > > > > The idea is to allocate page-sized arrays of pointers so that the callback > > invocation can sequence through the array instead of walking a linked > > list, hence the reduction in cache misses. > > I'm still not getting it, how do we end up trying to allocate memory > from under raw spinlocks if you're not allowed to use kfree_rcu() under > one ? You are indeed not allowed to use kfree() under a raw spinlock, given that it can acquire a non-raw spinlock. But kfree_rcu() was just a wrapper around call_rcu(), which can be and is called from raw atomic context. > Can someone please spell out the actual problem? And as noted above, reducing the kfree()-time cache misses would be a good thing. Thanx, Paul