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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>, <rafael@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Brice Goglin" <Brice.Goglin@inria.fr>,
	Sean V Kelley <sean.v.kelley@linux.intel.com>,
	<linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 4/6] ACPI: HMAT: Fix handling of changes from ACPI 6.2 to ACPI 6.3
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 17:30:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200821173037.00007665@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200821145923.GA1625248@bjorn-Precision-5520>

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:59:23 -0500
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 08:46:22AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 01:59:01PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:  
> > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 07:13:56 -0500
> > > Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > [+cc Keith, author of 3accf7ae37a9 ("acpi/hmat: Parse and report
> > > > heterogeneous memory")]
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 09:42:58AM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:  
> > > > > On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:21:29 -0500
> > > > > Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > >     
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 10:51:09PM +0800, Jonathan Cameron wrote:    
> > > > > > > In ACPI 6.3, the Memory Proximity Domain Attributes Structure
> > > > > > > changed substantially.  One of those changes was that the flag
> > > > > > > for "Memory Proximity Domain field is valid" was deprecated.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This was because the field "Proximity Domain for the Memory"
> > > > > > > became a required field and hence having a validity flag makes
> > > > > > > no sense.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So the correct logic is to always assume the field is there.
> > > > > > > Current code assumes it never is.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >  drivers/acpi/numa/hmat.c | 2 +-
> > > > > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/acpi/numa/hmat.c b/drivers/acpi/numa/hmat.c
> > > > > > > index 2c32cfb72370..07cfe50136e0 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/drivers/acpi/numa/hmat.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/acpi/numa/hmat.c
> > > > > > > @@ -424,7 +424,7 @@ static int __init hmat_parse_proximity_domain(union acpi_subtable_headers *heade
> > > > > > >  		pr_info("HMAT: Memory Flags:%04x Processor Domain:%u Memory Domain:%u\n",
> > > > > > >  			p->flags, p->processor_PD, p->memory_PD);
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > -	if (p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID && hmat_revision == 1) {
> > > > > > > +	if ((p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID && hmat_revision == 1) || hmat_revision == 2) {      
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I hope/assume the spec is written in such a way that p->memory_PD is
> > > > > > required for any revision > 1?  So maybe this should be:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   if ((p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID && hmat_revision == 1) ||
> > > > > >       hmat_revision > 1) {    
> > > > 
> > > > I should have said simply:
> > > > 
> > > >   if (hmat_revision == 1 && p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID)
> > > > 
> > > > We shouldn't even test p->flags for ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID unless
> > > > we already know it's revision 1.
> > > > 
> > > > And unless there was a revision 0 of HMAT, there's no need to look for
> > > > hmat_revison > 1.  
> > > 
> > > It needs to stay as an or statement as you had the first time.
> > > The field is always valid for hmat_revision > 1, and valid for
> > > hmat_revision == 1 with the flag set.  You could express it as
> > > 
> > > if ((p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID) || (hmat_revision != 1))
> > > 
> > > but that seems more confusing to me.  
> > 
> > Oh, you're right, sorry!  There are two questions here:
> > 
> > 1) In what order should we test "p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID"
> >    and "hmat_revision == 1"?  ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID is defined
> >    only when "hmat_revision == 1", so I think we should test the
> >    revision first.
> > 
> >    When "hmat_revision == 2", ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID is reserved,
> >    so we shouldn't test it, even if we later check the revision and
> >    discard the result of the flag test.  This is a tiny thing,
> >    admittedly, but I think it follows the spec more clearly.
> > 
> > 2) Do we need to test hmat_revision for anything other than 1?  Yes,
> >    you're right, see below.
> >   
> > > > > Good point.  We have existing protections elsewhere against
> > > > > hmat_revision being anything other than 1 or 2, so we should aim to
> > > > > keep that in only one place.    
> > > > 
> > > > I think the "Ignoring HMAT: Unknown revision" test in hmat_init(),
> > > > added by 3accf7ae37a9 ("acpi/hmat: Parse and report heterogeneous
> > > > memory"), is a mistake.
> > > > 
> > > > And I think hmat_normalize() has a similar mistake in that it tests
> > > > explicitly for hmat_revision == 2 when it should accept 2 AND anything
> > > > later.
> > > > 
> > > > We should assume that future spec revisions will be backwards
> > > > compatible.  Otherwise we're forced to make kernel changes when we
> > > > otherwise would not have to.  
> > > 
> > > I disagree with this. There is no rule in ACPI about maintaining
> > > backwards compatibility. The assumption is that the version number
> > > will always be checked.  The meaning of fields changed between
> > > version 1 and version 2 so it would be bold to assume that won't
> > > happen in the future!  
> > 
> > There *is* a rule about maintaining backwards compatibility.  ACPI
> > v6.3, sec 5.2.2, says:
> > 
> >   All versions of the ACPI tables must maintain backward
> >   compatibility. To accomplish this, modifications of the tables
> >   consist of redefinition of previously reserved fields and values
> >   plus appending data to the 1.0 tables. Modifications of the ACPI
> >   tables require that the version numbers of the modified tables be
> >   incremented.
> >   
> > > HMAT is an optional table, so if someone boots up an old kernel
> > > they are probably better off failing to use it at all than
> > > misinterpreting it.   
> > 
> > An old kernel tests:
> > 
> >   if (p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID && hmat_revision == 1)
> >     target = find_mem_target(p->memory_PD);
> > 
> > which is fine on old firmware.  On new firmware (hmat_revision == 2),
> > it will ignore p->memory_PD.  That is probably a problem, but I think
> > we should check for that at the place where we need a memory_PD and
> > don't find one.  That's more general than sanity checking a revision.
> > 
> > A new kernel that tests:
> > 
> >   if ((hmat_revision == 1 && p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID) ||
> >        hmat_revision > 1)
> >     target = find_mem_target(p->memory_PD);
> > 
> > will do the right thing on both old and new firmware.  
> 
> Actually, I think this part of the spec was done incorrectly.
> 
> ACPI v6.3 could have made the p->memory_PD field required without
> changing the definition of ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID.  What value was
> gained by making ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID a reserved bit in v6.3?
> 
> If they had left ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID alone, the Linux code could
> have been simply this, which would work with old firmware and new
> firmware, and we wouldn't have to touch this at all:
> 
>   if (p->flags & ACPI_HMAT_MEMORY_PD_VALID)
>     target = find_mem_target(p->memory_PD);

I have a slight recollection that might have been my fault :) Oops.

Jonathan

> 
> Bjorn




  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-19 14:51 [PATCH v9 0/6] ACPI: Support Generic Initiator proximity domains Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] ACPI: Support Generic Initiator only domains Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] x86: Support Generic Initiator only proximity domains Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-20 22:24   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-08-21  8:54     ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] ACPI: Let ACPI know we support Generic Initiator Affinity Structures Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] ACPI: HMAT: Fix handling of changes from ACPI 6.2 to ACPI 6.3 Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-20 22:21   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-08-21  8:42     ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-21 12:13       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-08-21 12:59         ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-21 13:46           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-08-21 14:59             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-08-21 16:30               ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2020-08-21 16:37             ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-21 16:54               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] node: Add access1 class to represent CPU to memory characteristics Jonathan Cameron
2020-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] docs: mm: numaperf.rst Add brief description for access class 1 Jonathan Cameron

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