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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v38 10/24] mm: Add vm_ops->mprotect()
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 09:57:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200921165758.GA24156@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200921124946.GF6038@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 03:49:46PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 04:53:37PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 08:09:04AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:28 AM Jarkko Sakkinen
> > > <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
> > > >
> > > > Add vm_ops()->mprotect() for additional constraints for a VMA.
> > > >
> > > > Intel Software Guard eXtensions (SGX) will use this callback to add two
> > > > constraints:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Verify that the address range does not have holes: each page address
> > > >    must be filled with an enclave page.
> > > > 2. Verify that VMA permissions won't surpass the permissions of any enclave
> > > >    page within the address range. Enclave cryptographically sealed
> > > >    permissions for each page address that set the upper limit for possible
> > > >    VMA permissions. Not respecting this can cause #GP's to be emitted.
> > 
> > Side note, #GP is wrong.  EPCM violations are #PFs.  Skylake CPUs #GP, but
> > that's technically an errata.  But this isn't the real motivation, e.g.
> > userspace can already trigger #GP/#PF by reading/writing a bad address, SGX
> > simply adds another flavor.
> > 
> > > It's been awhile since I looked at this.  Can you remind us: is this
> > > just preventing userspace from shooting itself in the foot or is this
> > > something more important?
> > 
> > Something more important, it's used to prevent userspace from circumventing
> > a noexec filesystem by loading code into an enclave, and to give the kernel the
> > option of adding enclave specific LSM policies in the future.
> > 
> > The source file (if one exists) for the enclave is long gone when the enclave
> > is actually mmap()'d and mprotect()'d.  To enforce noexec, the requested
> > permissions for a given page are snapshotted when the page is added to the
> > enclave, i.e. when the enclave is built.  Enclave pages that will be executable
> > must originate from an a MAYEXEC VMA, e.g. the source page can't come from a
> > noexec file system.
> 
> noexec check is done in __sgx_encl_add_page(), not in this callback.
> sgx_vma_mprotect() calls sgx_encl_may_map(), which iterates the
> addresses, checks that permissions are not surpassed and there are
> no holes.

Yes, that's what I said.

> > The ->mprotect() hook allows SGX to reject mprotect() if userspace is declaring
> > permissions beyond what are allowed, e.g. trying to map an enclave page with
> > EXEC permissions when the page was added to the enclave without EXEC.
> 
> For my ear this is tautological because if user space would use
> differing permissions, it would exactly soot itself in the foot.

Not on SGX2 hardware.  The kernel can't disable ENCLU[MODPE].

> What really should be documented is to answer why we consider an enclave
> mappable, if and only if the conditions are that I described about
> sgx_encl_may_map() functioning.
> 
> This is obviously part of the answer [*], i.e. with pharsing LSM hook
> requires an enclave to have a state, which is compatible with the mmap
> permissions and is fully populated.
> 
> The 2nd part of the answer is the answer to the question: why we want to
> feed LSM hooks enclaves exactly in this state.
> 
> What would you answer to that?

I would copy-paste the part of the response that was snipped...
 
> [*] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-sgx/20200918232458.GA6175@linux.intel.com/T/#u
> 
> /Jarkko


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-21 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200915112842.897265-1-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
2020-09-15 11:28 ` [PATCH v38 10/24] mm: Add vm_ops->mprotect() Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-18 12:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-18 15:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-18 23:24     ` [PATCH v38 10/24] mm: Add vm_ops->mprotect()' Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-18 23:53     ` [PATCH v38 10/24] mm: Add vm_ops->mprotect() Sean Christopherson
2020-09-19  0:15       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22 12:58         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-22 15:11           ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-23 13:30             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-23 13:43             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-23 14:33             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-24 14:50               ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-24 16:27                 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-24 19:35                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-21 12:49       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-21 12:51         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-21 13:14         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-21 16:57         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2020-09-21 21:07           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-21 21:18             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-22  5:29               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-22  5:35                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-22 16:43                   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-23 13:50                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-24 19:11                       ` Haitao Huang
2020-09-24 19:28                         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-24 19:39                           ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-24 20:01                             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-24 20:10                               ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-24 20:25                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-24 20:54                                   ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-24 22:10                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-24 23:05                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-24 23:09                                       ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-25  0:00                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-25 17:18                                           ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-25 19:43                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-25 19:53                                               ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-26  4:15                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-28  0:53                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-28 14:04                                                   ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-28 16:19                                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-28 16:48                                                       ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-28 19:32                                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-28 19:45                                                           ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-28 20:19                                                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-29  1:37                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-29  4:05                                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-29 14:24                                                                   ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-30  0:20                                                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-30 14:35                                                                       ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-28 20:18                                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-18  8:49                                                     ` Dr. Greg
2020-10-19 21:31                                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-10-20 10:01                                                         ` Dr. Greg
2020-10-20 16:40                                                           ` Sean Christopherson
2020-10-24 14:37                                                             ` Dr. Greg
2020-10-24 15:33                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-26 10:51                                                                 ` Dr. Greg
2020-10-26 22:59                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-27  0:40                                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-24 22:07                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-24 21:58                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-24 21:55                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-15 11:28 ` [PATCH v38 11/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX enclave driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-21  9:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-21 12:09     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-01 17:36   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-10-01 18:49     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-15 11:28 ` [PATCH v38 16/24] x86/sgx: Add a page reclaimer Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-22 10:45   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-22 14:03     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-22 14:24       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-23 14:52         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-29  1:14       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-29  3:50         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-29  8:35           ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-22 16:24     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-22 18:02       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-23 15:25       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found] <20200915110522.893152-1-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
2020-09-15 11:05 ` [PATCH v38 10/24] mm: Add vm_ops->mprotect() Jarkko Sakkinen

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